The unanimous decision was that qeeg should lurk more and get to know wetfish culture.
Well, it's been a year now. Has the lurking worked?
Title: Re: 1 year with qeeg
Post by: tawd on December 07, 2023, 04:03:27 pm
Do they even have an autistic super power? Who brought them here? I thought someone who kicked them out of a community then sent them here as a plight on ours intentionally as part of some sick and twisted joke.
They aren't the worst despicable vile creature to have ever walked the salt flats or something but they are extremely opinionated and matter -of- factly for someone who hasn't done/attempted to do anything.
On one hand its nice having another member of the community around to pump the numbers and maybe drop a good shitpost here and there (have they? i don't know), on the other they don't seem to have anything of great substance or value to contribute from a life or technology point, they aren't really amusing or quick witted, nor do they seem to be bringing anything artistic or interesting to the table for brain food. They're passionate about political discourse but theres a whole youtube comments section to reee into the void about.
From some kind of bleeding heart sympathy love for my fellow person thing it sucks to outcast people and leave them lonely sort of thing yeah part of me says don't ban them.
The other part of me says the place will have and has had many cases of -maybe it will get better- -maybe it can be fixed- sorta people and it never really seems to go that well The only difference being qeeg isn't currently anything to consider -dangerous- in my brief not really thorough assessment.
I sort of look at communities as what folks would contribute in a post apocalypse/zombie out break scenario based on their skills/attitude/proven record of anythings in life or friendships and qeeg just strikes me as the kind of person who fucks everyone over conspiring with the enemy then gets tangled up in barbed wire running away through the woods and gets eaten by zombies anyway.
I am not the most likable person nor do I have the most vital of things to always contribute to anything, I do however know to shut the fuck up -when the adults are talking- and when is most certainly not the time and place.
Hes kind of like Eugene from the walking dead except even suckier and less skilled and probably wouldn't deliver after a ton of betrayal or something.
I don't want to seem cruel and callous I just don't know how the community is going to get more members that want to stick around that have desirable traits when the place often seems like a mix of active adults doing adult things who are tech oriented, a few super nerds doing things for companies we wont out them over with really big brains able to do really cool stuff, some people struggling but maintaining and just fun to interact with, and then entirely unhinged fixer-uppers.
I get the whole keeping unhinged fixer-uppers who show promise and aptitude. They remind people to keep a fire lit under their asses and continue to do the needful, the people who aren't sucking remind the people who are sucking that they can keep trying and pushing to do the needful and getting better at doing the needful. And I really hate to even make some sort of caste/class system/hierarchy anything on wetfish. That itself seems pretty silly/not the spirit of things/stupid.
Maybe some day qeeg won't suck but as it stands I don't see them being the highlight of anyones anything that isn't looking for easy troll-bait and they seem to annoy people way more than anyone enjoys them. I don't see an engagement with qeeg making anyone I know think "wow I'd better go back to that place/bookmark that network/website"
Is there some really cool technical programming side of them that people enjoy I'm unaware of I'm sure they use linux or something?
To try to surmise /TLDR I would ask "To what benefit of the community is keeping qeeg"
Title: Re: 1 year with qeeg
Post by: rachel on December 07, 2023, 04:31:22 pm
Maybe some day qeeg won't suck but as it stands I don't see them being the highlight of anyones anything that isn't looking for easy troll-bait and they seem to annoy people way more than anyone enjoys them. I don't see an engagement with qeeg making anyone I know think "wow I'd better go back to that place/bookmark that network/website"
Is there some really cool technical programming side of them that people enjoy I'm unaware of I'm sure they use linux or something?
To try to surmise /TLDR I would ask "To what benefit of the community is keeping qeeg"
Thank you for the well thought out reply. This definitely captures a lot of my feelings on the situation
Title: Re: 1 year with qeeg
Post by: kayimbo on December 07, 2023, 10:38:59 pm
I voted Its been a great time. Qeeg is a real character. Counter to what gris said a little, they actually have a unique and high skill tech skillset.
While i disagree with them on a lot of things, i don't think they're very disruptive, and the ways in which they ARE sometimes disruptive is mostly entertaining.
I think qeeg blends into the tapestry well.
Our rules work good, and we haven't even had to mod qeeg too much as far as i'm aware.
Title: Re: 1 year with qeeg
Post by: tawd on December 08, 2023, 12:01:08 am
I was asking what their unique skill set is, can you clarify?
I figured it was something based on the way they felt the need to interrupt the town hall meeting to correct rachel on her mentioning of google chrome twice in naming off various internet browsers so to even have the level of knowledge to make that statement based on the core architecture of browsers I figured they must know something.
Title: Re: 1 year with qeeg
Post by: qeeg on December 08, 2023, 08:27:00 am
I was asking what their unique skill set is, can you clarify?
I figured it was something based on the way they felt the need to interrupt the town hall meeting to correct rachel on her mentioning of google chrome twice in naming off various internet browsers so to even have the level of knowledge to make that statement based on the core architecture of browsers I figured they must know something.
I develop emulators for fun lol. Also my pronouns are she/her.
Title: Re: 1 year with qeeg
Post by: tawd on December 11, 2023, 12:26:50 am
I was asking what their unique skill set is, can you clarify?
I figured it was something based on the way they felt the need to interrupt the town hall meeting to correct rachel on her mentioning of google chrome twice in naming off various internet browsers so to even have the level of knowledge to make that statement based on the core architecture of browsers I figured they must know something.
I develop emulators for fun lol. Also my pronouns are she/her.
Cool, did I offend you by repeatedly saying they/them or something?
Title: Re: 1 year with qeeg
Post by: here cums the fuck truck on December 11, 2023, 05:58:30 am
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I sort of look at communities as what folks would contribute in a post apocalypse/zombie out break scenario based on their skills/attitude/proven record of anythings in life or friendships and qeeg just strikes me as the kind of person who fucks everyone over conspiring with the enemy then gets tangled up in barbed wire running away through the woods and gets eaten by zombies anyway.
really thoughtful post.
i guess the real question is: is the standard for wetfish just "anyone who's not actively horrible" or is it "people who are actually great". personally i don't contribute anything to wetfish beyond shitposts.. but is that all wetfish is, shitposts? i don't know!
the real standard of wetfish is "does rachel like them" as she tries to breed a cult of personality around herself. please weigh in rachel - do you like qeeg?
i think over the last year they've become less obnoxious and more of a known quantity. like qeeg is definitely going to weigh in with the worst opinion unironically, and that heads off anyone from doing the "worst possible take as a bit" (which is a pretty tired bit!)
so, i've grown to appreciate qeegs utility.
Title: Re: 1 year with qeeg
Post by: qeeg on December 11, 2023, 11:40:55 am
I was asking what their unique skill set is, can you clarify?
I figured it was something based on the way they felt the need to interrupt the town hall meeting to correct rachel on her mentioning of google chrome twice in naming off various internet browsers so to even have the level of knowledge to make that statement based on the core architecture of browsers I figured they must know something.
I develop emulators for fun lol. Also my pronouns are she/her.
Cool, did I offend you by repeatedly saying they/them or something?
No, you offended me because the original version of your first post said he/him
Title: Re: 1 year with qeeg
Post by: rachel on December 11, 2023, 12:18:29 pm
the real standard of wetfish is "does rachel like them" as she tries to breed a cult of personality around herself. please weigh in rachel - do you like qeeg?
I've weighed in on this many times. I think qeeg is annoying and should be banned. However wetfish is not a cult of personality, it is a democratic community with specific rules, guidelines, and moderators. Until there is community support for the removal of qeeg no action will be taken.
There is a recurring pattern of NEETs being the worst / most annoying users. Examples include:
- Rossthefox - Standard - Qeeg - Neptun
Basically the problem with NEETs is that they have nothing better to do all day besides sit around on the internet arguing about pedantic bullshit. Because they rarely go outside and interact with other human beings, their opinions are often simplistic, reductive, and lack grounding in real life experience.
Perhaps the problem is not with Qeeg in particular, but NEETs as a whole?
We were discussing this on IRC last week. A potential solution to the NEET problem in general would be to enforce that all users must be actively involved in maintaining some kind of project.
Title: Re: 1 year with qeeg
Post by: qeeg on December 11, 2023, 12:20:14 pm
I already maintain a project, that project being PCBox.
Title: Re: 1 year with qeeg
Post by: rachel on December 11, 2023, 12:25:04 pm
I already maintain a project, that project being PCBox.
You said yourself you haven't actually worked on it in months if not years and basically all you do is pull changes from upstream.
You also said this inability to focus or work on projects is due to you being "burned out" from your parents telling you to do basic chores like taking out the trash when you were a teenager (you are now 25)
Title: Re: 1 year with qeeg
Post by: qeeg on December 11, 2023, 12:30:59 pm
The chores aren't the reason I'm burned out, I was originally burned out because of high school giving me WAY too much work at once ALL THE TIME, which not only goes against the IEP I had had since literally fucking elementary school, but also caused me to drop out when I was 17, and I've been TRYING to recover from that burnout ever since. My parents expecting me to do chores regularly is just the reason I CAN'T recover.
Title: Re: 1 year with qeeg
Post by: rachel on December 11, 2023, 01:20:40 pm
Title: Re: 1 year with qeeg
Post by: here cums the fuck truck on December 12, 2023, 04:25:20 am
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<qeeg[m]> holy SHIT that woman has tiny boobs for an adult with a snatch lol <qeeg[m]> how the fuck she gonna breastfeed if she ever has kids? <flare> they get bigger <qeeg[m]> not that much bigger <gris> i dated a girl from china whos tits were so small they were basically concave <qeeg[m]> there ain't even fucking ROOM for mammary glands in there wtf <gris> and she was a 36 year old woman <qeeg[m]> gris (IRC): wtf lol <gris> tits come in all sizes <gris> you'll learn that when you experience relations with women some day <gris> i believe in u qeeg <qeeg[m]> did she like, get them removed or something? <flare> my gf is basically completely flat <gris> god you're fucking dense man <qeeg[m]> flare: it would be illegal for her to be a pornstar in australia 👍️ <gris> qeeg sucks <gris> don't be a qeeg <i_love_women_so_much_its_unreal> good <flare> oh yeah I heard about that law <flare> how stupid <i_love_women_so_much_its_unreal> qeeg you hold the opinions and experience of a 13yo boy <flare> good thing she is not a porn star <i_love_women_so_much_its_unreal> yes what a relief <i_love_women_so_much_its_unreal> Go take a shower qeeg <gris> sometimes at the samsung factory they forget to inflate them <gris> and they send them out anyway <i_love_women_so_much_its_unreal> Lol <qeeg[m]> i_love_women_so_much_its_unreal (IRC): nah, i just don't see how cis women end up having literally having no tits as adults lol <gris> and then you get them home and you can't send them back to the factory unless you want to pay shipping <gris> its just not wrothi t <qeeg[m]> i had c cups before hrt and i'm amab lol
i don't think qeeg knows.. anything about women.
Title: Re: 1 year with qeeg
Post by: qeeg on December 12, 2023, 04:31:17 am
I know more about women than Ben Shapiro lol. Love me some Wet Ass P-word
Title: Re: 1 year with qeeg
Post by: rachel on December 15, 2023, 01:40:15 pm
Well it's been a week and I think it's time to officially conclude the results of the poll. The sentiment is unanimous - qeeg is annoying and our lives would all be better without them. However, what exactly should be done about qeeg is still up for debate. 3 people voted that we should ban qeeg and another 3 voted that despite being annoying, we should continue to tolerate their behavior.
Well it's been a week and I think it's time to officially conclude the results of the poll. The sentiment is unanimous - qeeg is annoying and our lives would all be better without them. However, what exactly should be done about qeeg is still up for debate. 3 people voted that we should ban qeeg and another 3 voted that despite being annoying, we should continue to tolerate their behavior.
I wouldn't call that "unanimous" when one person who wasn't even me voted for the most positive option in the poll lol. I was the one person who voted "Who?" because I thought it would be funny.
Title: Re: 1 year with qeeg
Post by: tawd on December 16, 2023, 04:58:32 pm
I sort of look at communities as what folks would contribute in a post apocalypse/zombie out break scenario based on their skills/attitude/proven record of anythings in life or friendships and qeeg just strikes me as the kind of person who fucks everyone over conspiring with the enemy then gets tangled up in barbed wire running away through the woods and gets eaten by zombies anyway.
really thoughtful post.
i guess the real question is: is the standard for wetfish just "anyone who's not actively horrible" or is it "people who are actually great". personally i don't contribute anything to wetfish beyond shitposts.. but is that all wetfish is, shitposts? i don't know!
the real standard of wetfish is "does rachel like them" as she tries to breed a cult of personality around herself. please weigh in rachel - do you like qeeg?
i think over the last year they've become less obnoxious and more of a known quantity. like qeeg is definitely going to weigh in with the worst opinion unironically, and that heads off anyone from doing the "worst possible take as a bit" (which is a pretty tired bit!)
so, i've grown to appreciate qeegs utility.
People who are actually great have way better things to do than spend time in an IRC with a pretty narrow area of interest. Not making a negative judgement or something but the place is already too gay/weeby/nerdy/programmy/furry to ever attract well rounded normal folk that would want want to stick around. And I'm fine with that cause I give zero fucks about fantasy football leagues or the trials and tribulations of le boomer mindset/tradition.
So I think the bar is simply people with a brain that don't fuckin suck.
I think Rachel has tolerated a few people she wasn't the fondest of till they got all extra stupid and did big no-nos. Poomp was around for way longer than it should have been and I think as people get older and have more experiences with people they become less opened to tolerating signs that point to someone being a big problem/liability/annoyance/headache.
Like you learn to tell the signs of a piece of shit without having to pick it up out of the pool and bite into it and see if its just a Baby Ruth. I mean I'd almost say its noble of you to put effort into defending someone who literally eats shit and doesn't even shower once a month if they can avoid it and ravenously talks about causing physical harm to trump voters and not in a joking/ironic kind of way, in a this is going to get someone put on a list kind of way for extremism.
The shitposts are some of the best part of wetfish, its one of the few places you can find some good shitposts someone else found or made that hasn't been reposted for the 100000th time by a karma bot on reddit these days. Shitposts are such a point of pride in this community there are bots to make comics of them.
Also don't sell yourself short, you've been super helpful when people have questions about electronics or circuitry, you're very handy even if you're a little trolly, and you have knowledge of things and a good sense of humor to contribute to the community and as a human being I wouldn't be worried about having my back to you or falling asleep around you in the zombie proof apocalypse bunker/encampment. You are 100% one of the people that I would expect to be helping me salvage through the remains of a collapsed society to try and get our little camp some good air filtration and rigged generators going.
Perhaps banning them isn't the right course of action if someone is looking to put the work and effort into to rehabilitating them, maybe something can be salvaged and they do some cool shit. I really don't know. At this point if someone annoys the fucking shit out of me I just put them on an ignore timeout for a minute then circle back to it when I'm in a better position to tolerate it without getting mean since that doesn't solve anything on any end or really benefit anyone.
It seems like they amuse you and kmbo and thats enough for me to want to change my vote cause I can just put them on ignore and tune it out when the nonsense overwhelms me.
Title: Re: 1 year with qeeg
Post by: kayimbo on February 04, 2024, 04:47:53 pm