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Title: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: Aryanne on October 14, 2019, 11:50:13 am
wetfish Drone General Thread #1
(https://i.imgur.com/CGQUzhQ.jpg)

In /WDG/ we discuss anything & everything remote controlled - multirotors, fixed wing, cars, rovers, helis, boats, submarines, battlebots, lawnmowers, dildos etc.

>How do I get started with racing drones?

https://oscarliang.com/mini-quad-racing-guide/

https://www.fpvknowitall.com/ultimate-fpv-shopping-list/

> How to build a racing drone (16 part video series from Joshua Bardwell)

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwoDb7WF6c8mWARrcxtX_G6yytK7QFHID

>What about planes?

https://www.flitetest.com/

>What about aerial photography, is DIY viable?

Buy a DJI if what you actually want is to take good photos/videos, go DIY if what you actually want is a fun project.

>I want a dirt cheap drone to fly around my yard/garden

Syma X5C

>I want a dirt cheap drone to fly inside my house

Eachine E010/Hubsan X4

>What are some good YouTube channels for learning or fun?

Joshua Bardwell - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX3eufnI7A2I7IkKHZn8KSQ
Painless360 - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCp1vASX-fg959vRc1xowqpw
Flite Test - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9zTuyWffK9ckEz1216noAw
Peter Sripol - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7yF9tV4xWEMZkel7q8La_w
7demo7 - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTa02ZJeR5PwNZK5Ls3EQGQ
ArxangelRC - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCG_c0DGOOGHrEu3TO1Hl3AA
RagTheNutsOff - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWP6vjgBw1y15xHAyTDyUTw
Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: rachel on October 14, 2019, 12:23:52 pm
Assuming the pic is your own... How much does that drone weigh? What software does it run?
Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: Aryanne on October 14, 2019, 12:29:19 pm
Assuming the pic is your own... How much does that drone weigh? What software does it run?

Most drones run an open source software called betaflight which is a fork of cleanflight which is another fork of baseflight.

I think I spent under 150$ for the drone itself it's a very budget like build using 2 year old parts.
Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: Aryanne on October 14, 2019, 12:44:32 pm
Assuming the pic is your own... How much does that drone weigh? What software does it run?

Most drones run an open source software called betaflight which is a fork of cleanflight which is another fork of baseflight.

I think I spent under 150$ for the drone itself it's a very budget like build using 2 year old parts.

Mistake, the weight of my drone is around 550 grams or 1.5 lbs
Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: Aryanne on October 14, 2019, 05:55:17 pm
NEW INFO:

Betaflight nightlies for 4.1 are online, two new important features are shown which are


how to set up rpm filters


how to fix vtx tables to get your vtx to work


Some flight footage (Line of Sight) of rpm filters in action by betaflight devs
Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: Aryanne on October 17, 2019, 06:42:04 am
NEW NEWS!!!!!!!!!
BETAFLIGHT 4.1.0 HAS BEEN RELEASED OFFICIALLY
https://github.com/betaflight/betaflight/releases/tag/4.1.0

Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: quicksand on October 17, 2019, 02:10:34 pm
Hello I also like drones. That is all.
Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: rachel on December 02, 2019, 12:12:17 am
(https://i0.wp.com/fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/sparkgap-motor.jpg)

Quote
How to Build a Drone Jammer

Spark gap transmitters are the oldest type of radio transmitter made by man. They were first used around 1888 and remained legal until the 1920s when their use became greatly restricted. World War II delayed their complete ban outside of emergency communications for a few years. Now the only way to use them legally is inside a faraday cage. They operate as jammers for the same reason they were banned, they take up a lot of the radio spectrum.

https://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/how-to-build-a-radiodrone-jammer/34089
Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: rachel on January 16, 2020, 05:29:47 pm
this guy takes like 100 drone motors and lifts off

Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: Aryanne on February 03, 2020, 04:50:47 pm
new news!

YOU TOO CAN COMPETE IN DRL BY QUALIFYING ONLINE BY PLAYING THE DRL DRONE SIMULATOR!
Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: Aryanne on February 03, 2020, 05:00:30 pm
Also in other news the gubberment tries to push more rules and regulations on drones due to interest and lobbying by large shipping companies especially Amazon. It is getting increasingly hard to fly a drone even though such regulations and laws are never upheld (do you think the police will go around with a drone scanner?)



Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: here cums the fuck truck on February 03, 2020, 10:13:49 pm
Also in other news the gubberment tries to push more rules and regulations on drones due to interest and lobbying by large shipping companies especially Amazon. It is getting increasingly hard to fly a drone even though such regulations and laws are never upheld (do you think the police will go around with a drone scanner?)





im not watching an entire 34 minute video "about drones" just because you posted it
please link to specific parts of the vid or at least summarize it to summon interest
Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: Aryanne on February 04, 2020, 04:47:34 am
Also in other news the gubberment tries to push more rules and regulations on drones due to interest and lobbying by large shipping companies especially Amazon. It is getting increasingly hard to fly a drone even though such regulations and laws are never upheld (do you think the police will go around with a drone scanner?)





im not watching an entire 34 minute video "about drones" just because you posted it
please link to specific parts of the vid or at least summarize it to summon interest

sorry about that,

basically you are now required to present a remote id that is being broadcast at all times, your transmitter must also be connected to the internet at all times. while this is fine for a commercial drone use as a DJI phantom, it is not for the case of a hobbyist made drone as the one depicted on this topic. Because regulation had a very vague statement about Hobby made drones and how it can broadcast the ID or not. to comply with the FAA's new remote id rule you have threeoptions, one is being connected to the internet via data to transmit the remote id. the second option is drones operate in a limited id mode where you are limited to 400 ft from you and the drone in any direction which is very very limited in terms of drone racing and free style. the last option is only going to FAA recongized identification areas or AMA fields which is a problem because there are not enough AMA fields or very little (also most tend to shun drone pilots because it gets in the way of their plane flying) which already limits the amount of space and fly areas the drone pilots have to go through.

so basically these remote id's aren't to benefit the hobbyist and it is more to benefit the commercial drone services such as DJI, amazon and other large shipping companies who may use drones in the future.

https://www.thedroneu.com/blog/faa-announces-drone-remote-id/ (https://www.thedroneu.com/blog/faa-announces-drone-remote-id/) a more summerized version of what the Remote ID proposal could mean for the drone hobby as a whole

again I apologize for not able to put a summary of what is going on.
Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: Aryanne on February 04, 2020, 04:56:06 am
Also in other news the gubberment tries to push more rules and regulations on drones due to interest and lobbying by large shipping companies especially Amazon. It is getting increasingly hard to fly a drone even though such regulations and laws are never upheld (do you think the police will go around with a drone scanner?)





im not watching an entire 34 minute video "about drones" just because you posted it
please link to specific parts of the vid or at least summarize it to summon interest

sorry about that,

basically you are now required to present a remote id that is being broadcast at all times, your transmitter must also be connected to the internet at all times. while this is fine for a commercial drone use as a DJI phantom, it is not for the case of a hobbyist made drone as the one depicted on this topic. Because regulation had a very vague statement about Hobby made drones and how it can broadcast the ID or not. to comply with the FAA's new remote id rule you have threeoptions, one is being connected to the internet via data to transmit the remote id. the second option is drones operate in a limited id mode where you are limited to 400 ft from you and the drone in any direction which is very very limited in terms of drone racing and free style. the last option is only going to FAA recongized identification areas or AMA fields which is a problem because there are not enough AMA fields or very little (also most tend to shun drone pilots because it gets in the way of their plane flying) which already limits the amount of space and fly areas the drone pilots have to go through.

so basically these remote id's aren't to benefit the hobbyist and it is more to benefit the commercial drone services such as DJI, amazon and other large shipping companies who may use drones in the future.

https://www.thedroneu.com/blog/faa-announces-drone-remote-id/ (https://www.thedroneu.com/blog/faa-announces-drone-remote-id/) a more summerized version of what the Remote ID proposal could mean for the drone hobby as a whole

again I apologize for not able to put a summary of what is going on.

Another thing that this also removes the current rule which is no drones below 250 grams can be flown without registering the drone. so remote id is tied to all drones regardless of weight limit. Before or currently we are able to fly drones sub 250 grams in our back yards and such without registering the drone.
Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: here cums the fuck truck on February 05, 2020, 05:04:56 pm
thank you for these explanations.. this is super angrifying >:(
Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: Aryanne on February 17, 2020, 08:23:44 pm
REMINDER!

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2019/12/31/2019-28100/remote-identification-of-unmanned-aircraft-systems

if you want the RC hobby as a whole to not die due to corporate lobbying and regulations. It is the time to voice your opinions.
Title: Santa's coming to town
Post by: rachel on April 04, 2020, 01:18:43 pm
Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: rachel on April 04, 2020, 09:28:02 pm
This guy makes a functional drone... out of legos

Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: rachel on May 18, 2020, 03:18:24 am
we are gonna have to do a drone survey of that property in the mountains to see where we how long we can build our house

good thing saxton has a drone with a camera on it that he got for christmas like 2 years ago
Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: rachel on May 20, 2020, 05:47:02 pm
The drone battery is charging
Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: M-C on May 21, 2020, 02:06:28 am
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Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: Aryanne on May 21, 2020, 06:15:14 am
Daily reminder its only a drone if it has some kind of autonomous flight capability otherwise its just a quadrocopter

the authorities dont understand this either

Usually its quadcopter but proper term is multirotor refering to an aircraft with two or more rotors example: bicopter, tricopter, quadcopter, hexacopter

stuff such as DJI multirotors can be considered Drones since they have some mission planning and obstacle avoidance.

but the FAA considers any radio controlled flying objects drones.

but the hobbies racing drones dont offer much in autonomous flight (some use gps but thats only if they go too far ahead to do a RTH function or send coordinates to your radio if you crashed).
Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: here cums the fuck truck on May 22, 2020, 09:07:44 am
Daily reminder its only a drone if it has some kind of autonomous flight capability otherwise its just a quadrocopter

the authorities dont understand this either

can you please explain the difference between a robot, a drone, and a complex machine? thanks
Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: Ozmiander on May 22, 2020, 07:21:12 pm
even my cheapo quad can do RTH, so it's a drone.
Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: Kitlero on May 23, 2020, 07:17:34 am
Can someone help me find a good DIY drone build that will be ideal in stealing Amazon drone packages?
Asking for a friend.

Thank you.

/s


Actually, what about this drone for photo stuff too, Aryanne.
https://www.powervision.me/en/product/poweregg
Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: Aryanne on May 23, 2020, 08:26:01 am
Can someone help me find a good DIY drone build that will be ideal in stealing Amazon drone packages?
Asking for a friend.

Thank you.

/s


Actually, what about this drone for photo stuff too, Aryanne.
https://www.powervision.me/en/product/poweregg

Problem with that is the controller it uses, not using a traditional radio control limits a lot of movement and it is very reliable. which is why a lot of AP platforms always recommend you use a normal style radio with two joy sticks to allow more control of movement.

though looks like this drone could use a trad radio, though I dont know much about it. As I am not as well versed in AP drones.
Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: M-C on May 24, 2020, 04:42:15 am
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Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: here cums the fuck truck on May 24, 2020, 12:11:45 pm
Daily reminder its only a drone if it has some kind of autonomous flight capability otherwise its just a quadrocopter

the authorities dont understand this either

can you please explain the difference between a robot, a drone, and a complex machine? thanks

I was just being a dick. But really its the autonomous flight capability which makes a 'drone'. You could argue something as simple as station holding qualifies as well. I guess in reality it means most multirotors could be classed as drones, since even cheap flight controllers are generally getting smarter.

It just annoys me because 'drone' is obviously a scare word that exists in the discourse as an aftereffect of the killbot drone war in afghanistan from the last decade, and authorities are riding that same negative connotation now to get laws and rules passed styming the hobby, when the real objective is to make sure the 500ft or so flight deck remains clear for Amazon if they ever to their drone delivery thing.

i dont even fly multi rotors, i have a 300 size 4channel helicopter from banggood that id like to fly again when this virus bullshit is over, but this still affects me.

its something that amuses me because many nerds are very stubborn about certain things being "robots" and other things being "not robots", but none of them have ever been able to clearly define the difference for me. So, that's the difference I was interested in.

Technically, a dishwasher is a robot! Just kidding, she's a woman and she has rights.
Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: M-C on May 24, 2020, 03:46:10 pm
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Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: rachel on May 30, 2020, 10:21:11 pm
found this video of a flying brick

Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: here cums the fuck truck on June 01, 2020, 08:31:54 am
found this video of a flying brick



i like that hud. are they all like that now?
Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: rachel on June 06, 2020, 09:10:44 pm
is this a drone?



Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: Aryanne on June 06, 2020, 09:53:02 pm
is this a drone?





usually drones are anything that is flown unmanned.

Though this general is for multirotors or quadcopters.
Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: kayimbo on June 08, 2020, 08:53:29 am
nsfw
https://www.instagram.com/p/B_U8I2vgAbZ/
Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: rachel on June 16, 2020, 12:42:13 pm
is this a drone?

(https://preview.redd.it/pxhod8xw27451.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=6f8b9d3faf57d9594c513a49d410c5b3f33737b8)
Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: rachel on June 16, 2020, 12:42:37 pm
is this a drone?

(https://preview.redd.it/pxhod8xw27451.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=6f8b9d3faf57d9594c513a49d410c5b3f33737b8)

military version

(https://assets.newatlas.com/dims4/default/1cc89e4/2147483647/strip/true/crop/1200x1000+0+0/resize/2304x1920!/format/webp/quality/90/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnewatlas-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2Farchive%2Ftikad-military-drone-5.jpg)
Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: here cums the fuck truck on June 16, 2020, 01:16:50 pm
is this a drone?

(https://preview.redd.it/pxhod8xw27451.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=6f8b9d3faf57d9594c513a49d410c5b3f33737b8)
i think thats an android
is this a drone?

(https://preview.redd.it/pxhod8xw27451.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=6f8b9d3faf57d9594c513a49d410c5b3f33737b8)

military version

(https://assets.newatlas.com/dims4/default/1cc89e4/2147483647/strip/true/crop/1200x1000+0+0/resize/2304x1920!/format/webp/quality/90/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnewatlas-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2Farchive%2Ftikad-military-drone-5.jpg)

this is a cyborg
Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: rachel on August 06, 2020, 10:49:27 pm
BRRRRRRRRRRRR




Do you think the aligator wanted to eat the drone? Maybe it tastes like a big juicy dragonfly?
Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: here cums the fuck truck on August 07, 2020, 11:21:30 am
he was like "that is the biggest humminbird ever, i bet it is full of SO MUCH nectar"
Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: Ozmiander on August 10, 2020, 11:22:07 pm


Did a fly
Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: rachel on September 16, 2020, 08:57:37 am


Did a fly

I like this video. Very cool mountains. Maybe someday I'll build an underground house there :)
Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: rachel on September 16, 2020, 08:58:23 am
Bored with line of sight? Now you can fly your drone up to 100 km away!

Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: here cums the fuck truck on September 20, 2020, 01:49:41 pm
holy shit thats cool
Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: rachel on October 05, 2020, 11:04:55 pm
I guess this is why the govt wants to regulate drones so bad

(https://i.redd.it/y2d3bhmai9r51.png)
Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: rachel on October 06, 2020, 09:37:46 pm
Probably the coolest use of a drone that I've ever seen

Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: rachel on December 04, 2020, 09:07:15 pm
This is kinda like a drone



Super capacitors are pretty cool
Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: rachel on February 19, 2021, 07:57:45 pm
Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: kayimbo on February 25, 2021, 10:25:57 am
(https://i.imgur.com/HO9LGj0.png)
Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: rachel on March 11, 2021, 11:29:34 pm
Time for a boat drone!

Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: woodneko on March 11, 2021, 11:44:00 pm
Time for a boat drone!



dang, i should build one of these, this is really cool
Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: rachel on March 12, 2021, 03:35:52 pm
Time for a boat drone!



dang, i should build one of these, this is really cool

Yeah, I really want to have some sort of autonomous boat for monitoring aquatic life at Wetfish's nature preserves. In the video he mentioned potentially doing a kickstarter to create a vacuum formed polycarbonate RC boat hull. That would be really cool because it would be clear so you could put cameras in the hull pointing down into the water.
Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: woodneko on March 14, 2021, 06:12:47 pm
Time for a boat drone!



dang, i should build one of these, this is really cool

Yeah, I really want to have some sort of autonomous boat for monitoring aquatic life at Wetfish's nature preserves. In the video he mentioned potentially doing a kickstarter to create a vacuum formed polycarbonate RC boat hull. That would be really cool because it would be clear so you could put cameras in the hull pointing down into the water.

it would be really easy to just do the vacuum form yourself. vacuum forming is super easy and can be done with a pretty simple setup
Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: rachel on April 28, 2021, 12:12:28 pm
This guy made a (relatively) inexpensive drone to spread seeds over large areas. It's made from off the shelf components and can be assembled for less than $1000

Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: rachel on May 25, 2021, 11:54:11 pm
This guy strapped a bunch of solar panels to a sheet of foam and made it fly around

Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: rachel on June 11, 2021, 11:41:02 pm
I supported this kickstarter!! Since the project got over 400% of the original funding goal, he's now designing an entire kit to build your own robot with tank treads

Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: rachel on August 12, 2021, 06:35:03 pm
3d printed rockets tho?

Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: rachel on November 09, 2021, 08:42:48 pm
Meanwhile in Finland

(https://i.redd.it/zgcaajb19eu51.png)

https://redd.it/jf7u8y
Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: rachel on November 21, 2021, 04:36:24 pm
I supported this kickstarter!! Since the project got over 400% of the original funding goal, he's now designing an entire kit to build your own robot with tank treads



The kits are almost ready to order!!

He's been stress testing the design and it even works when driving on vegetation and sand!!!

This little thing is going to be PERFECT for roaming around on the wetfish nature preserves

Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: rachel on October 11, 2022, 02:03:20 pm
Drone + Crabs = Ultimate death weapon

(https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/v1/download/wetfish.chat/iKPkGzFhmkbWNMagMlQPRGyT)
Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: rachel on October 14, 2023, 09:36:38 pm
Airplanes are like drones, right???

Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: rachel on October 19, 2023, 10:28:09 pm
I guess youtube is recommending me model plane videos now

Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: here cums the fuck truck on November 06, 2023, 11:16:57 am
i think it would be fun (but a lot of work) to make a dirgible lighter-than-air drone that doesn't use helium or hydrogen, but uses hot air. maybe one day scale that up too. idk if hot air lifts enough, or how to calculate this. like does it get more lift the hotter it gets???
Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: rachel on November 07, 2023, 11:29:50 pm
i think it would be fun (but a lot of work) to make a dirgible lighter-than-air drone that doesn't use helium or hydrogen, but uses hot air. maybe one day scale that up too. idk if hot air lifts enough, or how to calculate this. like does it get more lift the hotter it gets???

I'm no expert in hot air balloons, but I did a few minutes of research and discovered that the amount of weight a hot air balloon can carry is in fact based on the difference between the temperature of the air outside of the balloon vs the air inside the balloon.

I found this ancient website that looks like it was made by a highschool teacher in the early 2000s which includes a calculator for determining the amount of weight a hot air balloon can carry for a given volume of air at different densities.

https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/hot-air-balloon-lifting-force-d_562.html

(https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/v3/download/wetfish.chat/FlFUUYXZFKJejKTXlOEtZMUU/image.png)

(https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/v3/download/wetfish.chat/dEYPWDSGLCxHEuPzBIIcdYzg/image.png)

It turns out helium is about 4x as buoyant as a hot air balloon and hydrogen is 5x
Title: Re: Wetfish Drone General #1
Post by: rachel on November 27, 2023, 11:39:36 pm