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Title: Coronavirus general
Post by: rachel on March 14, 2020, 10:03:37 AM
Hey, how's it going y'all? The pandemic is in full swing. Respirators and face masks have been sold out since February. K-12 schools across the US are closed for up to a month. Kate's college cancelled their spring / summer semester and told everyone to go home. Work trips, sporting events, and anime conventions all cancelled. The economy is falling hard. Grocery store shelves are empty as everyone stocks up for the zombie movie apocalypse we all grew up with.

(https://doujins.com/img/blog/2054/1580338453.png)

I think it's cool that suddenly it's socially acceptable to stay inside and not talk to anyone except on the internet
Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: here cums the fuck truck on March 14, 2020, 10:24:38 AM
work has told us to "work from home" except for service calls, which means i will be infecting crews that have been at sea and isolated for at least a month

also the point of containment has already been passed. international level briefings say to prepare for 480million dead.
Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: Ozmiander on March 14, 2020, 10:31:10 AM
c19 is a fuck
Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: libfud on March 14, 2020, 08:15:54 PM
the happening is cool until you realize that it can't be stopped and it's not just an internet joke
Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: here cums the fuck truck on March 14, 2020, 08:26:43 PM
we all deserve to die
Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: nicefish on March 15, 2020, 09:17:28 AM
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Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: rachel on March 15, 2020, 10:44:46 PM
America #1, beating italy for exponential growth!!

(https://i.redd.it/apxxmlc4kfm41.jpg)
Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: rothen on March 15, 2020, 11:52:48 PM
America #1, beating italy for exponential growth!!

(https://i.redd.it/apxxmlc4kfm41.jpg)
Woooooooooooo, America #1! Suck it, Europe!

But, really, please don't kill my grandparents.
Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: rachel on March 18, 2020, 08:55:43 PM
So it looks like the CDC took note to the fact that everyone in the world was searching for "coronavirus map" and decided to make their own for the US.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/70e0839d-40be-40d3-40a6-3a08c1589445.png)

The New York Times also has a pretty cool one with more detail

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html

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Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: rachel on March 18, 2020, 09:03:06 PM
Another day, another bar of exponential growth

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/b0caa0d6-b5c8-0295-1185-760f29d9589c.png)
Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: rachel on March 18, 2020, 09:08:25 PM
Another day, another bar of exponential growth

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/b0caa0d6-b5c8-0295-1185-760f29d9589c.png)

Keep in mind that this is the number of new cases each day where the first image was a cumulative count.

America #1, beating italy for exponential growth!!

(https://i.redd.it/apxxmlc4kfm41.jpg)

On day 13 Italy had a total count of 4,636 cases while America on day 13 now has 7,038. Nice
Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: rachel on March 18, 2020, 09:09:58 PM
The WHO has a cool map too.

https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/685d0ace521648f8a5beeeee1b9125cd

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/66371e95-af22-ca3e-2f59-474d7afb217e.png)
Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: rachel on March 19, 2020, 10:01:15 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/fzvMjlx.jpg)
Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: rachel on March 19, 2020, 10:35:38 PM
Another day, another bar of exponential growth

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/b0caa0d6-b5c8-0295-1185-760f29d9589c.png)

the hockey stick keeps getting bigger...


(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/2fa96573-5bb4-cf89-c054-45e6b3f6dd2f.png)
Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: rachel on March 21, 2020, 12:52:30 AM
A few people have talked about the risk of reinfection since people have allegedly tested negative and gotten sick again, but false negatives are quite common since the disease is so new.

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus

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Some people require more than one test because of false-negative outcomes

The number of COVID-19 tests carried out will be similar to the number of people tested, but they won’t be quite the same, because some people may need to be tested multiple times. The reason for this is that there are “false-negative” test outcomes

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There are several reasons why someone infected with COVID-19 may produce a false-negative result when tested:

    They may be in the early stage of the disease with a viral load that is too low to be detected.
    They may have no major respiratory symptoms, so there could be little detectable virus in the patient’s throat and nose.
    There may have been a problem with sample collection, meaning there was very little sample to test.
    There may have been poor handling and shipping of samples and test materials.
    There may have been technical issues inherent in the test, e.g. virus mutation.

The WHO suggests that these issues should be taken into account and that for some people, tests should be carried out several times.

But some people infected a bunch of monkeys and they weren't able to reinfect them. So maybe we're safe, lol

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.13.990226v1

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Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: rachel on March 22, 2020, 08:48:43 PM
The hockey stick isn't quite as steep today. The total number of new cases every day is still increasing, but not quite as fast as the past few days. Let's see if this trend continues.

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/e8c6fc3b-a8f9-deb2-8b15-2c0e14e1b20c.png)

But the US isn't doing too good on these metrics...

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/e653ad61-1f5f-e742-a786-1c9ddc0e8de9.png)

Source: https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-the-hammer-and-the-dance-be9337092b56
Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: rachel on March 22, 2020, 09:52:23 PM
Using a home made face mask is not as effective as using an actual surgical mask, but it is still better than wearing nothing.

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A protective mask may reduce the likelihood of infection, but it will not eliminate the risk, particularly when a disease has more than 1 route of transmission. Thus any mask, no matter how efficient at filtration or how good the seal, will have minimal effect if it is not used in conjunction with other preventative measures, such as isolation of infected cases, immunization, good respiratory etiquette, and regular hand hygiene. An improvised face mask should be viewed as the last possible alternative if a supply of commercial face masks is not available, irrespective of the disease against which it may be required for protection.

https://sci-hub.zone/10.1017/dmp.2013.43
Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: here cums the fuck truck on March 23, 2020, 06:20:35 PM
all public schools have closed in most places in the US. seniors are butthurt they're not getting a prom. any more than ten people in an area is banned. take out food is still open.

if i knew how to disinfect my truck i'd do so regularly. all the diseases i've been trained to handle, traveled in dirt and the important thing was to spray down the wheels with goop and wear covers on shoes. this stuff? no idea. i can't get a micron mask to wear.
Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: rachel on March 23, 2020, 09:28:32 PM
Not slowing down at all yet.

The curve is not flattening in the US.

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/dd18a667-2f92-34ab-3b06-bc19f1c5eb39.png)
Title: Tips for sterilization and reuse of personal protective equipment
Post by: rachel on March 24, 2020, 10:35:35 AM
https://m.box.com/shared_item/https%3A%2F%2Fstanfordmedicine.box.com%2Fv%2Fcovid19-PPE-1-1

In COVID-19, "50-75% of 3000 positive cases in Vo, Italy were asymptomatic according to Professor Sergio Romagnani. Risk of exposure grows exponentially as noted through actual exposures (charted internationally) N95 masks are warranted and remain the standard of care.

Can N95 masks be autoclaved or sterilized by other means for safe reuse?

To be useful a decontamination method must eliminate the viral threat, be harmless to end-users, and retain respirator integrity. 4C Air confirmed all the proposed treatments have killed corona viruses. Labs have no way to test COVID-19 directly and as an accepted protocol, E. Coli is used for testing. We asked what methods can be used to decontaminate the facial mask for reuse safely and without loss to filtration efficiency. 4C Air confirms using 70 degree C hot air in an oven (typical kitchen-type of oven will do) for 30min, or hot water vapor are additional effective decontamination methods.

Conclusions: DO NOT use alcohol and chlorine-based disinfection methods. These will remove the static charge in the microfibers in N95 facial masks, reducing filtration efficiency. In addition, chlorine also retains gas after de-contamination and these fumes may be harmful.
Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: libfud on March 25, 2020, 04:20:49 PM
Not slowing down at all yet.

The curve is not flattening in the US.

Well yeah, there hasn't been enough time for the places that have instituted lockdowns to show those results. I'm kind of skeptical of the efficacy of the lockdowns in general because of all the essential businesses. Turns out, they employ a lot of people, and when everyone can still go to the grocery store it's not going to do that much to slow down the curve. And is everyone supposed to stay locked down for a year and a half until we get vaccines or acquire herd immunity? That's an insane course of action.
Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: Anomaly on March 26, 2020, 12:27:19 PM
Well this is going to be "fun"

(https://i.redd.it/jl0mlnlnk0p41.jpg)
Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: here cums the fuck truck on March 26, 2020, 01:15:13 PM
with restaurants & stripclubs closed and waitresses and strippers going hungry, the pussy market is gonna blow UP
Title: AMERICA NUMBER ONE
Post by: rachel on March 26, 2020, 03:59:04 PM
We did it y'all

America beats Italy and China in the same day

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/264470aa-bad1-3800-0a51-a399996a5172.png)
Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: quicksand on March 26, 2020, 04:04:04 PM
USA! USA! USA!
Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: Ozmiander on March 26, 2020, 04:09:32 PM
Nah, we're still probably 200k behind china.
Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: rachel on March 27, 2020, 05:28:03 PM
Meanwhile at the grocery store...

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/53398f33-4fad-3ec6-01c5-c9b1afea7e9d.jpg)
Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: rachel on March 28, 2020, 11:21:24 AM
Stephers was talking about this last night (from her own personal experience) and today it's in the news.

Coronavirus pandemic could inflict emotional trauma and PTSD on an unprecedented scale, scientists warn (https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/27/coronavirus-pandemic-could-inflict-long-lasting-emotional-trauma-ptsd.html)

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“The scale of this outbreak as a traumatic event is almost beyond comprehension,” said Yuval Neria, the director of trauma and post-traumatic stress disorder at the New York State Psychiatric Institute and a professor of psychology at Columbia University Medical Center.

Neria, seeking a precedent to point to, said that not even the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks or World War II were adequate comparisons, as the anxiety those events caused was at least limited by geography. In this case, he said, “there are no boundaries.”

Maybe we'll actually start taking healthcare and mental health problems seriously in the US now? Yeah... we can dream.
Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: rachel on April 02, 2020, 10:28:34 PM
This is a pretty cool site that plots the total number of cases vs number of new cases per day on a logarithmic scale, which turns into a straight line for countries that are undergoing exponential growth and deviates from the line once the curve is flattened

https://aatishb.com/covidtrends/

Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: kayimbo on April 03, 2020, 03:35:23 PM
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Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: rachel on April 04, 2020, 12:37:36 PM
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Please keep the memes in the "viral shitposts" thread. General discussion is for serious posts only!

https://wetfishonline.com/forum/index.php?topic=3348
Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: rachel on April 06, 2020, 01:43:00 AM
For the first time in weeks the number of new detected infections in the US has gone down. Is this a sign the curve is starting to flatten or just a single day anomaly? Under reporting because of the weekend? Social distancing finally starting to pay off? What do you think?

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Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: rachel on April 07, 2020, 10:53:44 PM
My favorite youtube doctor

Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: nicefish on April 09, 2020, 01:18:42 AM
Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: rachel on April 10, 2020, 10:09:21 PM
Smarter Every Day helps with the logistics of managing large scale production and sanitization of 3d printed face masks produced in decentralized factories -- people all over his city

Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: rachel on April 10, 2020, 10:17:12 PM
https://www.opshieldsup.org/

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Operation Shields Up!

A Collective Movement of Volunteers Getting Personal Protection Equipment (PPE) Face Shields in the hands of our front line medical professionals...NOW!

At Operation Shields Up our mission is to ensure that first responders and all of those on the front lines of the COVID pandemic have the protection they need.  In order to mount a rapid response we are leveraging the power of Crowd-sourced manufacturing using 3D Printing!
Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: kayimbo on April 14, 2020, 10:03:41 AM
can i sanitize face mask in the dryer?
Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: SourCandy on April 22, 2020, 03:39:33 PM
can i sanitize face mask in the dryer?

Tip me 1k corals and I will sanitize your face mask through 5G internet in a magic way :P
Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: nicefish on April 25, 2020, 11:10:20 AM
Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: Anomaly on April 29, 2020, 12:45:05 PM
"Just the flu" (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/21/world/coronavirus-missing-deaths.html)

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/4de27e46-a222-5457-254b-b8ae2ba3a64e.png)

And here's another article on excess deaths for good measure. (https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2020/04/16/tracking-covid-19-excess-deaths-across-countries)
Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: rachel on April 29, 2020, 07:08:35 PM
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Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: here cums the fuck truck on May 06, 2020, 08:14:48 AM
i work adjacent to the energy industry and it looks like shit is gonna get *bad*
Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: rachel on May 06, 2020, 02:28:38 PM
i work adjacent to the energy industry and it looks like shit is gonna get *bad*

What do you mean?

Are all the power plants going to get shut off because of coronavirus?
Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: here cums the fuck truck on May 06, 2020, 06:59:48 PM
some major industrial plants are closing down, so net grid demand is dropping, so some power plants will shut down.

apparently.

i don't have hard sources or numbers for any of this and i'm too lazy to investigate its just guys sitting around talking about if we're gonna get laid off.
Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: rachel on May 07, 2020, 02:00:31 AM
The juice media (rap news) strikes again

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The Government has made an ad about the global response to the pandemic, and it's surprisingly honest and informative.

Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: Anomaly on May 07, 2020, 11:30:11 AM
"Coronavirus May Lurk in Semen, Researchers Report"

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/07/science/coronavirus-semen-study.html
Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: kayimbo on May 07, 2020, 01:54:51 PM
https://www.facebook.com/1573471009/posts/10219622566786081/
Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: nicefish on May 08, 2020, 07:23:38 PM
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Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: rachel on June 20, 2020, 02:03:03 PM
It's been 2 weeks since the start of the George Floyd protests and we're starting to see the 2nd spike

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/8a058855-e2df-a805-96e0-575d1f6bae36.png)
Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: rachel on June 22, 2020, 09:54:31 PM
Check out these cool graphs tracking the growth rate of coronavirus infections in the US

https://rt.live/

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/0d608d7d-31ee-3497-0d0e-6bdfd6b66776.png)

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/192c2731-c67e-9be0-1bed-72bbc6ba409c.png)
Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: here cums the fuck truck on June 23, 2020, 03:37:43 AM
ah so these are New Models, not the Old Models that said "2.5 million people are going to die unless every waitress and retail worker is on the verge of homelessness"
Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: rachel on June 23, 2020, 01:52:37 PM
ah so these are New Models, not the Old Models that said "2.5 million people are going to die unless every waitress and retail worker is on the verge of homelessness"

https://stm.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/06/22/scitranslmed.abc1126

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Using influenza surveillance networks to estimate state-specific prevalence of SARS-CoV-2 in the United States

Detection of SARS-CoV-2 infections to date has relied heavily on RT-PCR testing. However, limited test availability, high false-negative rates, and the existence of asymptomatic or sub-clinical infections have resulted in an under-counting of the true prevalence of SARS-CoV-2.

(https://stm.sciencemag.org/content/scitransmed/early/2020/06/22/scitranslmed.abc1126/F1.large.jpg?width=800&height=600&carousel=1)

TL;DR version from CNN:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/23/health/undetected-coronavirus-cases-march-study/index.html

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Study suggests 80% of Covid-19 cases in the US went undetected in March

"The findings support a scenario where more than 8.7 million new SARS-CoV-2 infections appeared in the U.S. during March and estimate that more than 80% of these cases remained unidentified as the outbreak rapidly spread," Justin Silverman of Penn State University, Alex Washburne of Montana State University and colleagues at Cornell University and elsewhere, wrote.

So yea the lockdown actually did make a huge impact on the spread of the virus but we didn't (and still don't) have the capacity to properly test for it
Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: Anomaly on June 23, 2020, 01:55:12 PM
Check out these cool graphs tracking the growth rate of coronavirus infections in the US

https://rt.live/

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/0d608d7d-31ee-3497-0d0e-6bdfd6b66776.png)

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/192c2731-c67e-9be0-1bed-72bbc6ba409c.png)

Finally, something to be kind of proud of being in New York for.
Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: rachel on June 24, 2020, 08:13:48 PM
TIL n95 masks are pretty cool and even exploit static electricity to filter particles

Title: OPEN AMERICA
Post by: rachel on July 02, 2020, 07:17:21 AM
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flattening the curve means flattening the economy

we can't have that... america must reopen NOW!

>three weeks later

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/7bbcea87-b1f3-2edb-a97e-db081ea74385.png)
Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: Anomaly on July 12, 2020, 11:42:51 AM
(https://i.redd.it/9nfsf57hvca51.png)

Edit: colorblind version (https://imgur.com/fWfaZ1R)
Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: Anomaly on July 22, 2020, 03:21:38 PM
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Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: Mozai on July 29, 2020, 08:23:23 AM
From QZ "20 questions to ask instead of how are you doing"
Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: Anomaly on August 08, 2020, 01:45:09 PM
(https://i.redd.it/8ow5412jjrf51.jpg)

Of course, China's probably not the only country with data issues - how many of the above are under-reporting?
Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: rachel on September 03, 2020, 09:52:07 PM
India has been parabolic for months but they only recently broke the US record for number of new cases in a single day

They are going to have more cases than Brazil in the next couple days and more cases than the US within a couple weeks if this keeps up

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/a1413032-e5d3-ba4d-edfe-354719ba93f9.png)
Title: Re: Coronavirus general
Post by: rachel on October 06, 2020, 10:28:17 PM
Cardiologist explains how those stories about COVID causing long term heart damage were misquoted / inaccurate.