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Title: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on April 15, 2020, 11:08:58 pm
Post here any time you appreciate the power of water

Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on May 22, 2020, 11:47:48 am
Look at all of this water that comes from the rocky mountains!

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/8cc3df3e-9d23-b021-a13a-6c2d50898f58.jpg)

https://www.lvvwd.com/water-system/where-your-water-comes-from/index.html

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Southern Nevada gets nearly 90 percent of its water from the Colorado River, which begins as snowmelt in the Rocky Mountains.

The snowmelt travels through a series of tributaries into the river, which winds its way south for 1,450 miles and empties into the Gulf of California in Mexico.

Seven western states and Mexico share the river, which serves more than 25 million people.
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on May 22, 2020, 12:57:54 pm
in 2003 there was 250,000 more af

(https://i.imgur.com/YhsN3s8.png)

whatever that means
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: M-C on May 23, 2020, 06:49:45 am
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Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on May 24, 2020, 04:06:41 am
giving clams control over the water suppply

(https://i.imgur.com/EGrW3dK.jpeg)
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on May 26, 2020, 10:07:23 pm
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: Diabolizer on May 26, 2020, 11:29:12 pm


Thanks that's really important!
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: Diabolizer on May 26, 2020, 11:30:19 pm
I have a friend who does water law for the city of Greeley (or the county it's in, I forget).  You guys want to do an AMA?
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on May 27, 2020, 02:18:41 pm
I have a friend who does water law for the city of Greeley (or the county it's in, I forget).  You guys want to do an AMA?

Please put me in contact with this person ASAP I need their knowledge for building my house
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: Diabolizer on July 07, 2020, 02:52:22 pm
I have a friend who does water law for the city of Greeley (or the county it's in, I forget).  You guys want to do an AMA?

Please put me in contact with this person ASAP I need their knowledge for building my house

Sent your contact info.  Fair warning: lawerly advice is not free.
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on July 25, 2020, 06:49:24 pm
if you see a little dam on a stream be careful and don't die

Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: here cums the fuck truck on July 25, 2020, 11:02:24 pm
i love water
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on August 01, 2020, 12:22:29 am
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on October 03, 2020, 06:06:49 pm
YouTube recommendations know that I love dam videos. I must be part beaver...

This one is about deconstructing an old hydroelectric dam that was originally built in 1913. The cost of maintaining the old dam was no longer worth the amount of energy they were generating, and the dam was disrupting salmon from traveling upstream to spawn.



Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on October 07, 2020, 10:42:55 pm
This Belgian company specializes in micro-hydro turbines that don't need big dams or other expensive infrastructure. Using a drop of only 1.5 meters they can generate anywhere from 5 to 100 kW, and the turbine is designed to move slowly, in the center of a whirlpool, which means it doesn't harm fish if they happen to swim through it!

https://www.turbulent.be/




Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: here cums the fuck truck on October 11, 2020, 09:00:33 am
This Belgian company specializes in micro-hydro turbines that don't need big dams or other expensive infrastructure. Using a drop of only 1.5 meters they can generate anywhere from 5 to 100 kW, and the turbine is designed to move slowly, in the center of a whirlpool, which means it doesn't harm fish if they happen to swim through it!

https://www.turbulent.be/





initially looks very promising but its all run by belgians. belgians can't be trusted.
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on October 13, 2020, 07:29:59 am
initially looks very promising but its all run by belgians. belgians can't be trusted.

That's racist. Do you have a reason for saying that? Keep in mind this is general discussion.
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: here cums the fuck truck on October 14, 2020, 05:53:18 pm
https://cheeseweb.eu/2014/04/3-reasons-no-belgian-friends/ (https://cheeseweb.eu/2014/04/3-reasons-no-belgian-friends/)

i've known three belgians and all three were untrustworthy bastards

surely i can't be wrong writing off an entire country?
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on November 05, 2020, 06:40:38 pm
This guy yells a lot but it's a pretty dope video

Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: woodneko on November 07, 2020, 02:59:12 pm
This guy yells a lot but it's a pretty dope video



pretty cool but he seems to have hundreds of feet of pipe for no reason and said something about "2 phase DC" which makes no sense, but I guess it's clear what he's doing looking at his electrical box (terrifying looking rectifier btw), he probably just misspoke. I think you could easily make this system 10x simpler and possibly more efficient. Some of the extra pipe seems to be for building pressure for the turbine sprayers, but that's not until the last 50ft or so of the line and it only gets up to 16psi.
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on November 07, 2020, 06:43:31 pm
pretty cool but he seems to have hundreds of feet of pipe for no reason and said something about "2 phase DC" which makes no sense, but I guess it's clear what he's doing looking at his electrical box (terrifying looking rectifier btw), he probably just misspoke. I think you could easily make this system 10x simpler and possibly more efficient. Some of the extra pipe seems to be for building pressure for the turbine sprayers, but that's not until the last 50ft or so of the line and it only gets up to 16psi.

As far as I can tell all of the pipes are necessary if you care about not disturbing the wildlife. First, the pipe entrance is submerged, which is the first line of defense against debris. There is a chance that fish might get sucked into the tube, but that's why this portion of the system is open on both ends. The water input pipe has a L bend in it, and a long deep tube where large sediment and rocks will fall. That slightly filtered, but constant supply of water is then fed over another filtered tube which spins like a water wheel. The spinning automatically keeps the screen clear and the wide trough gives a way for sticks, leaves, and small fish to safely flow downstream. The filtered water then goes down to the turbines.

What in particular would you change about the system?
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on November 19, 2020, 03:56:50 am
oops we got rid of all the water in california for farmland and now there's no more rain

boy golly who could have seen that coming

Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on December 24, 2020, 10:48:35 pm
ice is strong

stronger than rock

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/fec73715-cb7b-41c8-2d15-caed469706be.jpg)

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/7b8f7b5f-10a6-1d51-90b2-dc17ed866185.jpg)
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on December 26, 2020, 09:30:33 pm
ice is cool

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/88f33313-6964-3fe5-e9fb-ca3d98e433d5.jpg)
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: Mozai on December 27, 2020, 10:24:59 am
Water is a liquid that grows in volume when you lower its temperature.
Is it the only one that does that?
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on December 29, 2020, 10:42:34 pm
Stick a giant straw into the ocean to harness the temperature differential between the depths and shallow water in tropical regions

Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on January 06, 2021, 11:56:20 pm
Holy shit. This is the total area of land which feeds into the mississippi river.

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/0d957cb5-5123-f9bb-4097-9379a817a404.png)

That's one big watershed

Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on January 07, 2021, 12:21:01 am
Water is a liquid that grows in volume when you lower its temperature.
Is it the only one that does that?

I looked it up, apparently there are 5 elements which expand when they freeze.

- Gallium
- Silicon
- Bismuth
- Antimony
- Germanium

However water is not an element but a molecule of hydrogen and oxygen. If there are 5 elements which exhibit this behavior, surely many more molecules do this as well.

I know that ice, bismuth, and silicon all form crystals. So perhaps the connection here is that materials which form crystals tend to expand when they are frozen, and materials which do not form crystals tend to shrink?

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/61a63804-7081-ecae-af50-f3327df689e9.png)
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on January 10, 2021, 12:07:02 am
This is a graph of the snow and rainfall in the South Platte watershed. That's where I live! It looks like we're already off to a pretty dry year.

https://www.nrcs.usda.gov/Internet/WCIS/AWS_PLOTS/basinCharts/POR/WTEQ/assocHUC6/101900_South_Platte.html

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/48fc77ec-962c-4d59-9a75-963b306d3377.png)
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on March 08, 2021, 02:59:12 pm
Another video discussing the micro-turbines I posted last year. This one is a bit more in depth and is told from the perspective of an environmental educator instead of a product demo.

Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on April 29, 2021, 02:41:46 pm
(https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/v1/download/wetfish.chat/RLIGnkeRyjdyDnfzqrgbCbOH)
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on May 02, 2021, 09:36:58 am
I just did the math. Every inch of rain that lands on Mount Fishmore equates to approximately 1,221,947 gallons of water. If you consider the entire watershed, and not just our 45 acre slice, that amount goes up to 8,765,005 gallons of water per inch of rain!

(https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/r0/download/wetfish.chat/CReBOKIMUKafZiCylzZbTQXA)
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on May 05, 2021, 11:14:00 am
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A good rule of thumb is: "If you want an accurate one-liner saying, don`t get involved in hydrodynamics".

Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: here cums the fuck truck on May 06, 2021, 07:55:46 am


water in the metal
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on May 07, 2021, 01:04:37 pm


water in the metal

I really like this video. I haven't finished watching the whole thing yet, and I don't yet understand what this has to do with water, but I am definitely excited for them to start the demo

Edit: Look at that guy bunny hoppin' 🤣
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on May 25, 2021, 09:59:26 pm
This guy has an entire series about building and maintaining a micro hydro power generator at his house in Colorado. The system is monitored by drone in winter to capture video of the intake and outlet areas.

Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on June 06, 2021, 07:12:12 pm
This guy grows his own food in a permaculture garden. He's building a pond to collect rainfall. It's getting cold and he has to release the water from his rain barrels before the lines freeze. While releasing his stored rain water he digs into the soil to control where the water will flow during a storm

Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on July 08, 2021, 04:42:21 pm
A documentary about how dams have changed the united states' landscape, prevented salmon from spawning, and destroyed american indian lands with thousands of years of tradition and cultural artifacts. And the activists who painted giant graffiti murals on dams to bring attention to what had happend

Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on October 05, 2021, 08:58:43 pm
This guy used a solar panel and a 55 gallon drum on his roof to store energy and use it to power lights on his porch with a small turbine. Apparently an entire 55 gallon drum of water with 7 meters of height is only equivalent to the energy of 1-2 AA batteries 🤯



   
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on October 22, 2021, 06:22:23 pm
A dam made out of dirt from the 1920s failed after some big rain storms last year, flooding thousands of homes and causing hundreds of millions of dollars in damage.

Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on November 20, 2021, 08:22:41 pm
This is why I don't want a well in my permaculture village

(https://www.cgenarchive.org/uploads/2/5/2/6/25269392/1968519_orig.jpg)
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: meleeman on November 27, 2021, 08:10:47 pm
if you can safely pumpback effluent into the aquifer, then you could essentially create a sustainable water source, ofc, a lot of that could be contingent on your neighbors as well. water catchment is easier
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on January 15, 2022, 10:35:36 pm
Everyone get ready for Water Wars 2050

Start conserving now, build ponds, build forests, make friends with some beavers. Climate change is coming

(https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/r0/download/wetfish.chat/WgGtovfqpvFBBJOJaLYyBZxL)
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: Mozai on January 17, 2022, 04:46:46 pm
Aliens hear some organized radio waves from over there, they come visit Earth.
The Earthians have mastered splitting the atom!  Great!  What have they done with this breakthrough?

... they use it to boil water.   And they're made of mostly water, themselves.
Uh, okay, so what do they do with the boiled water?  They use it to turn a wheel.  The wheel has magnets on it to make turning the wheel harder, and the effort pumps up a localized EM field which they use to... boil water in their homes.

Water creatures split the atom to boil water, so they could boil water remotely.  Teleboiling, if you will.
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on January 18, 2022, 12:04:53 am
Bureau of Land Management biologists have been restoring and maintaining this creek in the Navada desert over the past 30 years and it went from being 2 feet wide to a lush green wetland spread over hundreds of feet.

Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on January 22, 2022, 11:33:02 pm
Lots of scientists and hydrologists from the Bureau of Land Management in Colorado have been mimicing beaver by building beaver dam analogues to restore wetland habitats in national parks!!

Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: here cums the fuck truck on February 14, 2022, 11:55:45 am
love water. been ddehydrated all weekend and finally managing to keep some in me! thank u water
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: nicefish on February 14, 2022, 11:38:36 pm
today i took a bath. it was relaxing
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on June 11, 2022, 06:45:16 pm
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: firefly on June 26, 2022, 11:40:27 pm
Was looking into some of the newer water from air technologies, came across this gem:

https://interestingengineering.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-air-to-water-devices (https://interestingengineering.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-air-to-water-devices)
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on June 28, 2022, 01:00:51 am
Was looking into some of the newer water from air technologies, came across this gem:

https://interestingengineering.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-air-to-water-devices (https://interestingengineering.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-air-to-water-devices)

I've heard of fog nets before but most of the new things on this list are pretty interesting!

Ironically the last one on the list turned out to be vaporware. They ran out of money from their Indiegogo campaign and never made it to production.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/fontus-the-self-filling-water-bottles#/updates/all

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9. These water bottles can refill themselves from the very air around them

Yet another interesting AWG is a self-refilling water bottle called the Fontus Airo. Ideal for people who love nothing more than the great outdoors, these bottles can refill themselves in less than an hour.

Sometimes when things sound too good to be true... they are

Edit: Lol I just noticed they have "9." twice, there is no "10." in this list xD
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: firefly on July 01, 2022, 11:03:27 pm
https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/how-fog-nets-are-making-water-abundant-in-the-atlas-mountains-and-may-be-useful-in-california/
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on July 21, 2022, 12:21:04 am
Bro wtf we are literally causing climate change through land use changes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico_City

It used to snow in Mexico City but then they drained all of the lakes and now it doesn't anymore

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Snow falls in the city very rarely, although somewhat more often in nearby mountain tops. Throughout its history, the Central Valley of Mexico was accustomed to having several snowfalls per decade (including a period between 1878 and 1895 in which every single year—except 1880—recorded snowfalls[94]) mostly lake-effect snow. The effects of the draining of Lake Texcoco and global warming have greatly reduced snowfalls after the snow flurries of 12 February 1907.[95] Since 1908, snow has only fallen three times, snow on 14 February 1920;[96] snow flurries on 14 March 1940;[97] and on 12 January 1967, when 8 centimeters (3 in) of snow fell on the city, the most on record.[98] The 1967 snowstorm coincided with the operation of Deep Drainage System that resulted in the total draining of what was left of Lake Texcoco.[94][99] After the disappearance of Lake Texcoco, snow has never fallen again over Mexico City.[94]
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on July 29, 2022, 11:44:06 pm
Flash Flood Front Wall Intercept in Rimrock Arizona, skip to 3m for the moneyshot

Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on August 04, 2022, 05:30:32 pm
Glen Canyon Dam is an antique and soon won't be able to supply any water downstream because it was never designed to be operated during a drought.......

(https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/v1/download/wetfish.chat/ADGcYeiCkVJgjaQXFExbRkco)

oopsie

https://www.8newsnow.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/59/2022/08/AntiquePlumbingatGlenCanyonDam.pdf

(https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/v1/download/wetfish.chat/IEuIFgNIyGpoODwupFLsEbmT)

There's way less water than the govt predicted we'd have. I guess climate change is real now

But it's fine because this dam doesn't even need to exist anymore. The hydro generation capacity is outdated and practically useless

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To date, we are aware of only one study that examines what effects losing hydropower at Glen Canyon Dam would have on the American Southwest: The Impact of the Loss of Electric Generation at Glen Canyon Dam by Power Consulting and Aesir Consulting. The study found that “the average annual value of Glen Canyon Dam’s electric energy represents less than one half of one percent of the sales value from electric generation in the western grid, and that the grid could readily absorb the loss of hydropower from the dam” and that “average yearly cost increases would be $.08 per month for residential customers, $.59 per month for commercial customers, and $6.16 per month for industrial customers of Glen Canyon Dam electricity.” In other words, the study found that losing electricity generation at Glen Canyon Dam would not have a significant effect on the electrical grid of the Western US or on individual consumer’s power bills.
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: Mozai on August 10, 2022, 04:10:20 pm
"Why are there flash floods after a drought?  Shouldn't the ground want to absorb all the water it's missing?"
Nope, and Dr Rob Thompson shows us how.
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on September 18, 2022, 09:13:05 pm
This is what rivers are supposed to look like

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabranch

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/02/Junction_of_the_Yukon_and_Koyukuk_Rivers%2C_Alaska.jpg)
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on September 26, 2022, 01:36:09 pm
Removing dams to save fish populations

Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on November 03, 2022, 06:36:42 pm
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: nepnep on November 03, 2022, 06:58:01 pm
Here's a hotel made largely out of pure... ice. 'Cuz why not?

(https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/icebar-torneland-by-mathieu-brison-and-luc-voisin-photo-by-asaf-kliger-2-1576606234.jpg)
(https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/icehotel-entrance-icehotel365-photocasaf-kliger-1548253151.jpg)
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: Mozai on November 12, 2022, 08:50:24 pm
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/365b3d338bcdb5068e617bbbbcfc0ed2/988c595a44fbdc1d-8e/s500x750/5b36bcb4cac5df6c0cc42a41fafc0ccaaca2903c.jpg)
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on November 24, 2022, 04:59:50 pm
This water is really cold

Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: Mozai on November 30, 2022, 07:24:17 am
(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/c838b160-71b4-574b-4dad-f384edbb5a6c.jpeg)
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on January 08, 2023, 09:47:30 pm
Hank explains how there's a giant waterfall underneath the ocean

Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on January 08, 2023, 10:50:06 pm
The primitive technology guy now has a house, forge, iron tools, and a water filtration system

Title: under-sink filtration systems
Post by: here cums the fuck truck on January 11, 2023, 02:06:15 pm
Anyone have any experience with these? I am thinking of getting something like one of these pentair five-filter models (https://www.pentair.com/en-us/water-softening-filtration/products/undersink-countertop-filtration-systems/freshpoint-easy-flow-undercounter-filtration-system.html)
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on February 25, 2023, 01:38:50 pm
WTF, in this video Wild Waterways Conservancy,  a volunteer non-profit organization took possession of a dam from the local government in Pennsylvania for $1 in order to facilitate the dam removal and conserve fish habitat.

http://www.wildwaterwaysconservancy.org/



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Tells the inspiring stories of four communities that removed dams and levees to improve public safety, reduce flood damage, and restore fish and wildlife.
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on May 30, 2023, 11:59:50 am
Water moving pebbles in a spring

Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on June 06, 2023, 04:43:36 pm
Tokyo has giant underground tunnels for flood waters that look like an ancient Egyptian temple

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c0/Geofront_Temple%5E_%E9%A6%96%E9%83%BD%E5%9C%8F%E5%A4%96%E9%83%AD%E6%94%BE%E6%B0%B4%E8%B7%AF_-_panoramio.jpg)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_Area_Outer_Underground_Discharge_Channel
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on June 17, 2023, 11:39:34 pm
There's SO MUCH WATER on my property right now

Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: nepnep on June 27, 2023, 12:15:17 pm
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: here cums the fuck truck on December 06, 2023, 06:40:56 am
oops we got rid of all the water in california for farmland and now there's no more rain

boy golly who could have seen that coming



i just realized - because plants are mostly water, and they ship crops out: when they farm with limited water, they're literally trucking out their water supply, piece by piece. and locking it up in long term carbon growth (like almond trees).

also i came back to this thread - years later! bc a discord friend asked about low flow hydroelectrics and i knew there was resources here, that i could pass on. thanks wetfish. Thetfish.
Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on February 27, 2024, 11:01:52 pm
this guy makes really great videos about water news across the US! This episode is about California but he also talks about the Colorado river and Mississippi

Title: Re: water appreciation thread
Post by: rachel on March 04, 2024, 02:22:52 pm
This video gave me anxiety. Someone got stuck behind a giant river during a flash flood and only had seconds to avoid disaster