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Title: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on July 24, 2020, 10:03:25 pm
It's like a LAN party, with more ddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd

That's right. Wetfish is buying land in the mountains to build an underground house, greenhouses, and do some agroforestry. The mission is to create an open source, self-sufficient society.

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/07c41fe9-dbc1-b29e-e483-fb83c0321e66.jpg) (https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/800_9d0f3e63-7bc0-fc84-b5f3-41ccd9089a63.jpg)

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/4c77eb53-2e7e-98ba-6b05-dfa09478d034.jpg)

Saxton and I have been saving money together to buy land since we got married. Over the past few months we started looking at some properties in the mountains about 15 minutes from where we live now. We can go outside and see the mountains where these properties are, it's pretty dope. We have enough saved up for an 8 acre property but about a month ago a 45 acre property in the same neighborhood was listed for sale.

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/110c2c36-fc40-0b02-2f2c-abf6cd9b29cc.jpg) (https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/ab29139a-8a8a-c9db-0b33-d168be425e57.jpg)

I've already gotten quotes from local well drilling and septic companies and talked to the county about the zoning and building requirements. It's all open zoning which means we can basically do whatever we want so long as a licensed contractor signs off on the building permits.

It has a stream, trees, and line of sight to basically the whole town. Wetfish could maintain the infrastructure for a local meshnet.

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/eed56c73-0972-b36b-2376-a68f9b5fee85.jpg)

Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: Qwan on July 24, 2020, 10:06:36 pm
Woah thats a ton of land, super pretty
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: tae on July 24, 2020, 10:15:18 pm
Woah thats a ton of land, super pretty

agreed! beautiful
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: meleeman on July 24, 2020, 10:16:42 pm
damn rachel, i didn't know you were going to start a hippie commune there, i mean now i kinda regret buying land in new mexico but hey, if you need help building or what not, i'm definetely down to help, just gimme weed and pizza and i'll be good. XD
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on July 24, 2020, 10:41:01 pm
If you know me you'll know I hate asking for money and I hate ads. But here we go... (https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/fishbux/bux1.gif)

Saxton and I have spent the past 3 months fixing up our current house: restaining the deck, fixing a hole in the garage, fixing our plumbing. We got our house appraised and  refinanced our mortgage in order to get additional cash to buy the land.

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/6460dbae-2c82-1b4f-ff36-2bd8d97f3dc4.JPG) (https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/453ce026-ae0c-b0fe-4212-2473356c6124.JPG)

Right now we have 70% of the cash on hand, but not enough to make an offer.

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/2fdc48ec-2a0d-9ebb-2fe7-263f77099201.gif)

Since we have more than 50% down, we could potentially get a land loan. But the interest rates on land loans are never very good compared to a mortgage. Lenders hate undeveloped land. Even if we could find a lender with decent rates, the whole process of getting the loan is going to take a couple more months.

That's why we're coming to Wetfish to ask if anyone in the community shares our vision of building an awesome hacker society of underground mole people.

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/300c9fc5-1917-279e-9362-df7afe3a5729.jpg)

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/ae50c209-b635-afeb-9609-75fd7d7630a6.png)

We are looking for investors to help us secure this property. By becoming an investor now you will have guaranteed access to Wetfish infrastructure for life. After the greenhouses are operational, food rations will be available for yourself and your immediate family for life as well.

Anyone who is willing to help put some money down on the land is encouraged to contact rachel on IRC.
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on July 24, 2020, 11:30:06 pm
FAQs from investors:

Q: How much are you looking for?
A: If we can get a few people to pitch in $5,000 each we'd have enough to make an offer. If a few people pitch in $10,000 we'd have enough to buy it outright for the list price


Q: What's the timeframe?
A: We'd like to make an offer before the end of August


Q: Can I go sledding / snowboarding down the mountain in winter?
A: Yes
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: Diabolizer on July 25, 2020, 01:02:00 am
I really wish I could give you that money.  I've been writing wiki articles cause I know that gets you (teansy amounts) of cash.  Right now all I have is coral :(
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: woodneko on July 25, 2020, 09:34:23 pm
I would also love to give if I had the moneys, ask me again in 5 years, lol. Between cooleg and everything else going on I don't have a lot to spare.
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on July 25, 2020, 09:46:51 pm
I would also love to give if I had the moneys, ask me again in 5 years, lol. Between cooleg and everything else going on I don't have a lot to spare.

No worries! This investment opportunity is mostly aimed at members of the community who already have successful careers in the tech industry. If you're struggling to make ends meet the last thing I'd want is for you to send me money. You should be paying for rent and groceries and shit

Hopefully in 5 years you'll be asking for money to help buy your own land to build self sufficient greenhouses and mushroom farms instead :)
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: kayimbo on July 26, 2020, 11:48:19 am
what is wetfish infrastructure
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: woodneko on July 26, 2020, 12:39:47 pm
Hopefully in 5 years you'll be asking for money to help buy your own land to build self sufficient greenhouses and mushroom farms instead :)

That would be pretty spicy. I see it happening for sure, assuming I don't die in a car accident before then.
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: here cums the fuck truck on July 26, 2020, 12:48:58 pm
what is wetfish infrastructure

im curious as well
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on July 26, 2020, 01:52:38 pm
what is wetfish infrastructure

im curious as well

The underground bunker and greenhouses
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: Black T Cat on July 26, 2020, 06:24:58 pm
sell regenerative or permaculture ag consulting services to raise funds. most profitable scam in ag since anhydrous was introduced as a fertilizer
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on July 27, 2020, 11:01:29 pm
check out these cool pics of the land

we went there over the weekend

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/a8a43670-2b01-791e-300e-7d964c3789dd.jpg)

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/b0974748-2bba-85e1-a9de-981ab9c026cf.jpg)
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on July 27, 2020, 11:06:40 pm
These ones are sideways... SORRY

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/54c6f4fd-debd-3b91-eada-c4b84c031c63.jpg)

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/7f679741-0cca-dcf3-9407-c0785e1665e6.jpg)

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/155f86fa-2c57-6a77-8cb0-256a7dac3f1b.jpg)
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on July 30, 2020, 09:40:57 pm
By the way this is what "open" zoning means according to Larimer county

https://library.municode.com/co/larimer_county/codes/code_of_ordinances?nodeId=PTIILAUSCO_4.0ZO_4.1ZODI_4.1.5EN

Quote
4.1.5. - O-Open. A. Principal uses:
Agricultural
1. Agricultural labor housing (S)
2. Alfalfa dehydrator (S)
3. Apiary (R)
4. Commercial poultry farm (S)
5. Equestrian operation (PSP/MS/
S)—See section 4.3.1
6. Farm (R)
7. Feedyard (S)
8. Fur farm (S)
9. Garden supply center (S)
10. Greenhouse (R)
11. Livestock auction (S)
12. Livestock veterinary clinic/hospital (MS/
S)—See section 4.3.1
13. Packing facility (R)
14. Pet animal facility (MS/
S)—See section 4.3.1
15. Pet animal veterinary clinic/hospital (MS/
S)—See section 4.3.1
16. Sod farm, nursery (R)
17. Tree farm (R)
Residential
18. Dwelling, cabin (R)—See subsection 4.3.2
19. Group home (R)
20. Group home for the aged (R)
21. Group home for the developmentally disabled (R)
22. Group home for the mentally ill (R)
23. Single-family dwelling (R)
24. Storage buildings and garages (R)—See section 4.3.2
Institutional
25. Cemetery (S)
26. Child/elderly care center (S)
27. Church (MS/
S)—See section 4.3.4
28. Community hall (MS/
S)—See section 4.3.4
29. Hospital (S)
30. Prison/detention center (S)
31. School, nonpublic (S)
32. State-licensed group home (S)
Recreational
33. Country club (S)
34. Golf course (S)
35. Membership club (S)
36. Rafting business (MS)
37. Shooting range (S)
Accommodation
38. Bed and breakfast (MS/
S)—See section 4.3.6
39. Recreational vehicle park and campground (S)
40. Resort lodge/resort cabins (S)
41. Retreat (S)
42. Seasonal camp (S)
43. Short term rental (S)
Industrial
44. Landfill (S)
45. Mining (S)
46. Oil and gas drilling and production (R)
47. Sawmill (S)
48. Small solar facility (R/PSP)
49. Small wind energy facility (MS)
Utilities
50. Commercial mobile radio service (SP/
S)—See section 16
51. Radio and television transmitters (S)
Transportation
52. Airport (S)
53. Heliport (S)
54. Park and ride (S)
55. Train station (S)
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: Ozmiander on July 31, 2020, 12:40:23 pm
i'm reserving a corner to start my prison/fur farm.
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: kiiada on August 06, 2020, 10:55:16 pm
Quote
Residential
18. Dwelling, cabin (R)—See subsection 4.3.2
19. Group home (R)
20. Group home for the aged (R)
21. Group home for the developmentally disabled (R)
22. Group home for the mentally ill (R)
23. Single-family dwelling (R)
24. Storage buildings and garages (R)—See section 4.3.2


Seems like it's missing multi-family options? Might have to technically register everyone as farm employees and call it agricultural labor housing
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: woodneko on August 06, 2020, 10:59:25 pm
Seems like it's missing multi-family options? Might have to technically register everyone as farm employees and call it agricultural labor housing

one of these?

Quote
40. Resort lodge/resort cabins (S)
41. Retreat (S)
42. Seasonal camp (S)
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: kiiada on August 06, 2020, 11:10:38 pm
That's a pretty grey area?  Seems like shit would get fucky with legal residency but idk if that matters I'm not a lawyer
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: firefly on August 10, 2020, 02:12:32 pm
"cemetery"

Wetfish Memorial Mountain Park has a nice ring to it.
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: Mozai on September 23, 2020, 05:46:11 am
Would wetfish house be a feature in "Fallout: Denver" ?
(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/70a4a232-81be-7fb2-c802-dcc014e892ae.png)
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on September 24, 2020, 10:39:40 am
Would wetfish house be a feature in "Fallout: Denver" ?
(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/70a4a232-81be-7fb2-c802-dcc014e892ae.png)

Yeah up by the desolation array, lol
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: Anomaly on September 24, 2020, 11:07:57 am
Great, now I want to play Fallout: New Denver.
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on October 01, 2020, 11:10:25 am
Update: Everyone on Wetfish is broke as fuck so I ended up just getting the land loan. Our realtor sent over an offer this morning
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on October 02, 2020, 10:29:57 pm
Update #2: They accepted our offer and the land is now under contract
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: here cums the fuck truck on October 03, 2020, 01:54:13 am
congrats!
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on October 22, 2020, 12:59:28 pm
Meanwhile in New York

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/4cb4f81f-2f12-832b-337d-699f9bfeef38.jpg)
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: firefly on October 25, 2020, 10:50:35 am
Congrats on making the land purchase! That's so awesome!

I forgot basic details: approximately where is it in relation to Ft. Collins, 15 min in which direction? what is the cost per acre up there?
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on November 13, 2020, 02:50:14 pm
Congrats on making the land purchase! That's so awesome!

I forgot basic details: approximately where is it in relation to Ft. Collins, 15 min in which direction? what is the cost per acre up there?

Ft Collins is east of the rocky mountains, and this property is in the mountains... so it's west :P

The cost per acre is around $3,000 if you are buying 30+ acres, otherwise it's more like $10,000 per acre for smaller lots
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: here cums the fuck truck on November 14, 2020, 05:06:37 am
i'm thinking of buying a house out here in PA, i've just discovered sherrif sales (buying a house for the price of the tax lien). thing is, the tax rate here is astronomical - 12.5%! every year! but people end run this by getting their houses assessed for much less than they're actually worth, a house goes for 150k and its assessed at 40k, etc.

house down the street from me is in shabby condition, last went for 20k but was assessed at 44k. i was thinking of buying it and fixing it up but i don't know how to bribe locals for a new assessment.
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on November 20, 2020, 04:57:10 pm
Hello All,

We did finish the survey today. We set or found all boundary corners and located improvements. I will issue a survey Monday morning. I will respond to everyone on this email with a PDF version (signed and stamped) of my survey. Have a great weekend. Thanks for choosing [surveying company].

Take care
[Survey dude]
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on December 15, 2020, 05:06:58 pm
Contract is officially closed as of an hour ago. Wetfish now owns 45 acres in the mountains
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: Ozmiander on December 18, 2020, 06:11:59 pm
(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/0cc4426c-5c90-8204-7139-cb17be088b38.jpg)

Nothing like driving up a treacherous mountain road in the dark while it's snowing!
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: kayimbo on December 19, 2020, 10:15:15 am
where is thread for underground techniques?   I've been looking domes this morning.... pretty fucking cheap...
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on December 19, 2020, 10:19:07 pm
where is thread for underground techniques?   I've been looking domes this morning.... pretty fucking cheap...

It's over here https://wetfishonline.com/forum/index.php?topic=3335

Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on December 19, 2020, 10:30:33 pm
Some pictures from the land today


(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/a1a2dec0-1df0-29ea-e1da-931e3b68f027.JPG)

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/cf8606db-2831-362a-8682-993d7556a07b.JPG)

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/bafdd1c9-305b-1d74-5e86-a5e1cf680603.JPG)

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/687134d9-5b61-978a-4d53-6edebe900414.JPG)
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: Ozmiander on December 19, 2020, 10:56:49 pm
(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/0801bef7-f987-d4c3-c81f-9751598c0849.jpg)

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/2dc55a11-394e-109d-a65c-5b246adcf111.jpg)
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: Ozmiander on December 19, 2020, 10:57:53 pm
NTS: Don't try to climb steep snowy hills in treadless worn sneakers.
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on December 20, 2020, 05:57:03 pm
We brought Woodcat for a hike today!

(https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/v1/download/wetfish.chat/NWvZqifmOOALEzROeDtesQkk)

(https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/v1/download/wetfish.chat/BTpXsycZKnWWrOyPHDFnnCFR)

We cleaned out a bunch of dead plants and rocks from the pit (the previous owner dug a hole like 8 feet deep for some reason)

(https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/v1/download/wetfish.chat/qNIvaPvBxMGwXTrHvaCppxiS)

And then we found a pile of rocks that I made while viewing the property with the realtor months ago

(https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/v1/download/wetfish.chat/gtILgJXVHrMqohzrIfRdDsLN)
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on December 20, 2020, 06:00:59 pm
I can't believe she came all the way to the pit but didn't get in it

Woodcat said "I'm just observing"

Maybe next time she'll get in my pit
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: Ozmiander on December 20, 2020, 06:07:49 pm
the best part is that it's named The Devil's Minty Butthole because it's a red hole full of mint.
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on December 21, 2020, 12:47:43 pm
I am getting so educated right now

Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on December 24, 2020, 09:26:36 pm
Went back up to the land today with Saxton. We got a battery powered chainsaw yesterday. After purchasing a chainsaw my boyfriend and my ex-boyfriend both told me to be very careful and gave me lots of tips and info about safety equipment, lol.

There used to be a cabin on the property, but it burned along with many of the trees which now cover the property. We cut all of the branches off of the dead trees that were blocking the driveway down to the old foundation of the cabin.

BEFORE

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/9f1d8933-0cdf-7b10-e454-ce2447b9ab7e.jpg)

AFTER

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/4e9d0f99-2d8e-c9a6-654a-b7374d44e046.jpg)
(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/a9066536-a46b-1d15-9649-fe39816c88f9.jpg)
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on December 24, 2020, 09:36:37 pm
*BONUS* INFINITE CHAINSAW ENERGY

We have two 6 Ah batteries for the chainsaw, which each last for a couple hours of cutting small limbs. The chainsaw battery only takes about an hour to charge so we can essentially work indefinitely. We'll run out of chain & bar oil before we run out of electricity.

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/426bbc78-3a50-0526-7097-ac8bcb49c82a.jpg)

Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on December 24, 2020, 10:32:51 pm
After clearing the driveway we started marking the property line so we can get a better feel for the buildable area. Our property lines are a square, straight lines north east south west from each corner. We used a 100 foot measuring tape and a compass from the corner marker and started putting flags every 100 feet

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/6b69d4ae-0389-d479-273b-83f160c9762c.jpg)
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on December 24, 2020, 10:36:27 pm
Then we measured the pit

Turns out it's a lot bigger than we thought it was

20 feet long, 16 feet wide, and 11 feet deep

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/1a5ea179-0e4a-a23e-460d-29d4eaef08db.jpg)
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on December 24, 2020, 10:41:46 pm
Then we went for a hike along the stream.

Check out these frozen waterfalls :D

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/a091b16e-b8ef-3a43-388a-bab40a2d5067.jpg)

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/4e793bb4-e166-f660-f53f-bdbeac602210.jpg)

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/9d324fc3-1c2b-31c8-55cb-1009e2b07001.jpg)

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/8217a0d0-c9e3-e0a9-ffd4-0ec0138c1f9c.jpg)

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/a3093a57-5c71-0c2d-afe8-6e211914323c.jpg)

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/f1b9e5d1-b737-fcb4-fc57-d5f151f0582e.jpg)
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on December 27, 2020, 08:46:59 pm
Yesterday Sonder, rachdogg, and I all went up to the mountain. Started by bringing a couple bags of compost and finding a suitable location to start a compost pile. I wanted something close to the driveway so it would be easy to unload compost and soil from our truck in the future, but somewhere protected that would retain moisture. There was a patch of snow in a shady spot and that's where I picked.

The first couple inches of topsoil was frozen but much to my surprise, beneath the layer of ice I found dark loamy soil. I dug a pit, and buried the bags of compost. We found a couple cowpies on the driveway so we threw those on top as well.

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/78cc70b8-0b96-b342-a7dd-a1ea21319b55.jpg)
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on December 27, 2020, 08:53:30 pm
Then we started our hike down to the stream. We tied a couple ropes to a tree to give us something to hold on to in the steep part.

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/f6c98fb0-4169-eb18-2f0a-9d6b01f000ed.jpg)

We found this interesting rock which appeared to contain spheres of iron??? I want to go back with a magnet to see if it's magnetic.

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/205902f9-aa31-78e4-c16e-74cfd1dafc2b.jpg)

We smoked some pot on the large flat rock between the trees in the center of this photo, which is now known as The Pot Rock™

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/14d080fd-ef2c-fed6-c713-5e7666f83460.jpg)

Speaking of rocks. Check out these cool fucking rocks

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/c73cac2c-5cec-8ee3-51e2-613a4937ddd1.jpg)

Here's a picture of Sonder taking a picture of an icy waterfall, lol. Very 2020 aesthetic

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/23ff120c-3a1d-8c63-2143-a4b265050ea5.jpg)

Also we found some tracks. Mountain lion maybe?

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/16a2b34e-a78b-81a9-4f82-b77a8f1418e0.jpg)
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on December 27, 2020, 08:55:44 pm
Sonder took this amazing photo of me & Rachel by the big cliff. I love how it captures the scale of everything with the cliff framed by trees and the mountain in the background.

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/9488ffdd-74b9-1e66-6610-09a55df1ce29.jpg)
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on December 27, 2020, 09:26:37 pm
Today is the last day of weather in the 40s - 50s. It's going to be cold and snowy for the rest of the week, so I had to go back up to the mountain and finish the compost pile. We have a compost bin at our house, but it's underneath the deck so it doesn't get enough moisture to properly break down. I loaded up a bunch of the compost from our bin into the truck and buried it.

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/baa23987-bdde-a026-43af-299b967ebd5b.jpg)

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/c5a863d6-f4f6-ebef-fa9d-f9a93da7fcb4.jpg)

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/ba76ab0f-1544-c6a9-86fc-81484b79e693.jpg)
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: meleeman on December 28, 2020, 05:17:58 am
pot rock <3 i wanna see the pot rock
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on January 06, 2021, 09:50:59 pm
went up to the mountain to chainsaw more today

cleaned up a bunch more of the logs around the driveway

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/f8ea14e5-47b4-a52a-8038-5736235a230c.jpg)

my mom asked me to take a selfie wearing all of my protective gear

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/896ae183-5007-d3df-80a3-4ad30383d14a.jpg)

tonight my homework is learning to use one of these things

Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on January 06, 2021, 10:05:36 pm
I hate petroleum. Standard bar oil you buy at the store is so nasty. It smells gross. It's toxic to plants. And it pollutes water.

I'm going to spend 4x as much to get biodegradable bar & chain oil instead. It's worth it

(https://autobegreen.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/BC-Gallon-New-Label-05-20.jpg)
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: Ozmiander on January 07, 2021, 01:11:38 pm
Just buy a gallon jug of canola instead.
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on January 07, 2021, 08:11:08 pm
Chainsaw chainsaw chainsaw chainsaw.

Check out my piles of logs

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/f8809432-48d8-832e-56b6-383327bec91e.jpg)

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/75edcc17-37d2-f819-9cfd-83d54668a659.jpg)
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on January 07, 2021, 08:25:45 pm
Bonus: Beetle art :O

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/397c3cc1-860f-11e2-7af2-ed5be2ed0c1e.jpg)
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on January 13, 2021, 12:32:14 am
It snowed on Saturday so I haven't been up to the land for a few days. Fortunately it started warming up today so I went up this morning and made some snowballs filled with native wildflower seeds and threw them around the property.

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/eb1ede41-5437-edfc-c164-32d9f907ce4b.jpg)

That's when I spotted some mouse tracks in the snow!

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/3f1d9ef3-4a50-dea8-3ab4-3e9ff24a3914.jpg)

The deer have been using the trails we cleared through the trees. It's cool seeing their footsteps in the snow along the trails we made

Then I took the mattock and started clearing the first 100 feet of the trail down to the valley.

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/b4f3fedb-b5d1-be23-ebfd-e3b7d18368e3.jpg)

It's going to take a lot of work, but I figure if I do a little bit each time I go up there, it will only take a couple weeks to get a trail all the way down.
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on January 13, 2021, 12:33:15 am
oh yeah and I heard a red tailed hawk go SCRAWWWWW, so that was cool


(https://www.oregonzoo.org/sites/default/files/styles/exhibit_photo/public/2012/03/21/V_orig_red-tailed_hawk.jpg?itok=dAJ73VRf)
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on January 17, 2021, 11:18:42 pm
Over the weekend I dug out about 600 feet of the trail and roped off the full 1400 feet length to the bottom of the valley.

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/046418ab-36ca-9968-caed-6906ad237727.jpg)

We already knew about the waterfall downstream of the property, but we also discovered there's another waterfall upstream of the property!

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/90fc0243-5259-404c-d672-a0fbda1e102d.jpg)

Also we planted this tree. I got this tree in 2016 for earth day and was growing it in a 5 gallon bucket ever since. I knew that some day I'd have a place to plant it.

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/a2a9e6f1-c7bc-b7b3-733e-a3d4694d3bf3.jpg)
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: tawd on January 17, 2021, 11:43:36 pm
Over the weekend I dug out about 600 feet of the trail and roped off the full 1400 feet length to the bottom of the valley.

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/046418ab-36ca-9968-caed-6906ad237727.jpg)

We already knew about the waterfall downstream of the property, but we also discovered there's another waterfall upstream of the property!

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/90fc0243-5259-404c-d672-a0fbda1e102d.jpg)


Also we planted this tree. I got this tree in 2016 for earth day and was growing it in a 5 gallon bucket ever since. I knew that some day I'd have a place to plant it.

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/a2a9e6f1-c7bc-b7b3-733e-a3d4694d3bf3.jpg)


you should give it a name and a little plaque. 
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on January 18, 2021, 09:58:30 am
Over the weekend I dug out about 600 feet of the trail and roped off the full 1400 feet length to the bottom of the valley.

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/046418ab-36ca-9968-caed-6906ad237727.jpg)

We already knew about the waterfall downstream of the property, but we also discovered there's another waterfall upstream of the property!

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/90fc0243-5259-404c-d672-a0fbda1e102d.jpg)


Also we planted this tree. I got this tree in 2016 for earth day and was growing it in a 5 gallon bucket ever since. I knew that some day I'd have a place to plant it.

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/a2a9e6f1-c7bc-b7b3-733e-a3d4694d3bf3.jpg)


you should give it a name and a little plaque.

You mean the tree? It's the compost tree. It lives next to our compost pile
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on January 18, 2021, 11:55:19 pm
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: Ozmiander on January 19, 2021, 02:56:36 pm
Where's the sheet metal? i only see diamond plate.
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on January 19, 2021, 03:03:00 pm
Where's the sheet of paper? I only see cardstock

(http://www.bestpapercrafters.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/cardstock-3.jpg)
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: Ozmiander on January 19, 2021, 06:43:32 pm
buy this so i can start stacking fuel:

Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on January 19, 2021, 09:19:14 pm
According to the county topographical map, the top of the trail has an elevation of approximately 6280 and the bottom of the trail into the valley has an elevation of approximately 5920. That's a 360 foot change in elevation!
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on January 19, 2021, 11:08:05 pm
buy this so i can start stacking fuel:



Cool idea for reusing sawdust and cardboard, I like turning waste materials into useful things
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: kayimbo on January 25, 2021, 05:25:28 am
According to the county topographical map, the top of the trail has an elevation of approximately 6280 and the bottom of the trail into the valley has an elevation of approximately 5920. That's a 360 foot change in elevation!

http://www.nwhiker.com/HikeEval.html
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on April 26, 2021, 09:01:38 am
Most of Colorado is in a severe drought right now, but my land still has waterfalls

(https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/v1/download/wetfish.chat/llOuIbUiTUdPnzVkjBnoYySl)

(https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/v1/download/wetfish.chat/MwITgUdGipuXESlsCPBLjixG)

(https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/v1/download/wetfish.chat/ZqjXxXLRnFKjdDDUQTkioDxR)
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on April 26, 2021, 03:50:47 pm
Fuck foundations, fuck concrete, I'm just gonna drill my house into the ground

https://stopdigging-groundscrew.com/

Quote
Ground screws outperform concrete in every way.

GROUND SCREWS REPLACE AND OUTPERFORM CONCRETE BLOCKS. IF WE CONSIDER THE ENVIRONMENTAL COST OF CONCRETE, GROUND SCREWS OFFER A GREENER AND MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY-FRIENDLY SOLUTION WITHOUT SACRIFICING STABILITY, COST OR LONGEVITY.

Fast to install, strong, lightweight, low cost, robust, low mess, and kind to the environment... what's not to love?! There are many advantages to the ground screw, but above all else it is about your time and effort: you do not have to lug heavy loads, use heavy equipment, dig deep holes, pour messy concrete and wait for it to set. Our ground screws should not be confused with basic ground anchors or lightweight soil screws from DIY stores that you can install yourself

(https://stopdigging-groundscrew.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/StopDigging-Hero.jpg)
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: ionicwake on April 26, 2021, 08:37:53 pm
Most of Colorado is in a severe drought right now, but my land still has waterfalls

(https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/v1/download/wetfish.chat/llOuIbUiTUdPnzVkjBnoYySl)

(https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/v1/download/wetfish.chat/MwITgUdGipuXESlsCPBLjixG)

(https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/v1/download/wetfish.chat/ZqjXxXLRnFKjdDDUQTkioDxR)

Is that year round?  If so thats some nice power generation capacity.
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on April 26, 2021, 11:24:58 pm
Seriously these ground screw things are awesome. They can even be drilled into bedrock. This is going to make building a foundation for my house so much easier

Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on April 26, 2021, 11:32:19 pm
Is that year round?  If so thats some nice power generation capacity.

There is water flow year round. However the flow rate varies wildly. Sometimes it's just a trickle, other times it can be several feet deep. Colorado has been in a drought since we started looking at the property last year, but despite that there has continued to be water flow year round. The neighbors have told me stories about times where there was so much water that they could see and hear the stream flowing from their house at top of the mountain
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on May 11, 2021, 10:26:22 am
Went up to the land over the weekend with Bubbles, Sonder, and Sonder's friend Dominique. Each of us brought a tool and worked on the trail as we walked down the mountain. Dominique and I dug up a couple flowers that were growing in the middle of the trail and put them in pots.

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/765212cf-234c-03e4-abea-54ab87c0a576.jpeg)
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on May 14, 2021, 03:38:11 pm
There was a rainy snow storm earlier this week and the water level in the stream has risen even higher. Woodcat and I went up to the property yesterday and hiked around the entire length of the stream on the property. You can see in this picture that the amount of water flowing has almost doubled

(https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/v1/download/wetfish.chat/JPtvrBZtsQaHJFBzHgxncuda)

(Woodcat for scale)
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on May 16, 2021, 10:08:57 pm
The trail is starting to become more developed now. It's 2-3 feet wide at the top of the hill and there is an erosion barrier made of rocks and logs. We are working on digging out the rest of the trail to the bottom, it's approximately 60% finished so far.

BEFORE: (https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/b4f3fedb-b5d1-be23-ebfd-e3b7d18368e3.jpg) AFTER: (https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/6853b7fc-02c0-b003-9b7f-cf30a0fa5f6c.jpeg)
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on May 24, 2021, 01:45:12 pm
New video recorded after the snow storm we got a couple weeks ago

Title: THE SAGA OF THE ROCK
Post by: rachel on May 29, 2021, 11:56:13 pm
THE SAGA OF THE ROCK
The story of Kiiada and Rachel finally conquering the rock at the beginning of the trail.

Back in January the trail down to the waterfall started out pretty narrow. At that point my focus was getting a path as far down the hill as possible. Large rocks were simply dug around and left to be dealt with later.

(https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/v1/download/wetfish.chat/ghWDgubKjZspSqjIgwCcQUfb)

Over the past few months the trail got wider and large rocks were slowly moved out of the way. However this one rock at the beginning of the trail refused to budge.

(https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/v1/download/wetfish.chat/XatgZPPSJOPVaJEssJHnckhB)

Little did I know how far down this rock went when I started the trail. What we were walking over was just the tip of the iceberg.

(https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/v1/download/wetfish.chat/nkfbDQtmvTdAHvWhflzwgtsC)

For weeks I have been taking my friends hiking up on the land and each time we would spend a few minutes digging out a little bit more around the rock. At least 5 people on separate occasions had all taken turns using the mattock to dig around and try to pry the rock from the ground, but still it refused to budge.

Today things were different. Kiiada and I both took turns digging out the rock for about 30 minutes until we reached a part of the rock that had cracked. We were then able to hit the rock with the mattock and pry it apart. Despite breaking the rock into pieces we were still unable to get the whole thing out of the ground. We ended up just smashing the part that was left above ground and leaving the rest to be covered up with dirt.

(https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/v1/download/wetfish.chat/ZlwDunnpBiCPEbdJVVRxkqsC)

(https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/v1/download/wetfish.chat/YaNMImLiCJaqbsALdMxuixiY)

(https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/v1/download/wetfish.chat/GnXJccUXCWUMFpqosmxJxRqe)
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on June 04, 2021, 01:00:35 am
Went up to the mountain a couple days ago and...

1. Put some netting around the trees to keep deer away
2. Mixed up the compost pile
3. Made some stairs out of the rock that kiiada and I dug up
4. Transplanted 7 specimens from the trail into pots for study

(https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/v1/download/wetfish.chat/JZlGvigUaBgnMYWYUQvZPWwM) (https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/v1/download/wetfish.chat/wiOFvAzAtCiEwgKZoRybJRJh) (https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/v1/download/wetfish.chat/LolZltuJWzYWEMVuWuILkDxw) (https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/v1/download/wetfish.chat/MaSbPuHfbJHnNXWVdPRCeLTB) (https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/v1/download/wetfish.chat/mcNsoXHxcDlNSRuMbJWpqPek)
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: meleeman on June 04, 2021, 09:46:09 am
The trail is starting to become more developed now. It's 2-3 feet wide at the top of the hill and there is an erosion barrier made of rocks and logs. We are working on digging out the rest of the trail to the bottom, it's approximately 60% finished so far.

BEFORE: (https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/b4f3fedb-b5d1-be23-ebfd-e3b7d18368e3.jpg) AFTER: (https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/6853b7fc-02c0-b003-9b7f-cf30a0fa5f6c.jpeg)

that looks amazing, and a lot of hard work, i hope you're not destroying your body again rachel
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on June 04, 2021, 11:43:27 am
that looks amazing, and a lot of hard work, i hope you're not destroying your body again rachel

Thank you, it has been a lot of hard work. I appreciate the concern. I have been making sure to take breaks, stay hydrated, and run the AC in the truck so that I don't overheat. I stopped taking those psoriasis meds about 2 months ago, which were a big reason why I got hurt in the first place.

Anyway, the feeling of accomplishment when I smashed that rock with kiiada was pretty fuckin good.
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on June 05, 2021, 08:15:34 pm
Introducing... an annotated map of the property!! :D
Especially useful for reference when hiking with new people.

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/2af40e03-98dd-429c-821c-b1ae5fffbedb.jpeg)
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on June 13, 2021, 10:01:05 pm
Watching storm clouds swirl around is so awesome

(https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/v1/download/wetfish.chat/AJjEEcctSjcePozBKpZUtiHe)
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on August 07, 2021, 05:55:47 pm
It's been a while since I posted any updates.

Last month my neighbor and I came to an agreement. He wants all of these logs removed from the access road on his property. In exchange for moving them, I get to keep 'em.

BEFORE:
(https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/v1/download/wetfish.chat/wYOmDQWGfInYJilbqLrocUye)

AFTER:
(https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/v1/download/wetfish.chat/luQodtrWteWXtiIICHIcCaIk)

You can see in the after pic I also started digging out some of the rock on the uphill side of the road and using them as a barrier on the downhill side. Before building the barrier I accidentally drove off the side of the road and got stuck, my neighbor had to come tow me out. After that happened I went to the hardware store and bought a bunch of those reflective markers.
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on August 07, 2021, 05:56:43 pm
More tree hauling pics!

(https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/v1/download/wetfish.chat/OsYqpRsTDEUBvOiNwxEieKZW)

(https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/v1/download/wetfish.chat/SSAxnstiskQDSgVRxAsXWTcB)

(https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/v1/download/wetfish.chat/ogKYKdUcxSmYTXOkmlDSskSE)
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on August 07, 2021, 06:09:53 pm
I've been cutting up smaller logs and putting them in the back of the truck. But anything over 8 inches in diameter gets a tow strap wrapped around it and dragged up the road.

Now you're probably wondering what in the heck we're doing with all these logs.

(https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/v1/download/wetfish.chat/ZnOtoiEJSBJsnoHwQOSRprUo)

Well, the plan is to make giant hugels! Hugelkultur is a horticultural technique of burying logs and organic material to create raised beds and terraces. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%BCgelkultur

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-UEAkTMJ-puM/UWjF8-h6RmI/AAAAAAAAAjg/GaPxJeuewcw/s1600/hill+gardening.jpg)

By burying logs and using them to build terraces we can significantly increase the amount of moisture that gets trapped in the soil. We'll also be preventing the logs from burning if there is another forest fire, and putting the carbon back into the soil where it can be broken down by fungi and turned into nutrients to help restore the forest.

(https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/v1/download/wetfish.chat/mqxuAfnuqsYswfWeIVksUuzw)
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: meleeman on August 07, 2021, 09:43:50 pm
wow i look good from behind. lol but yeah seeing all that mess turned into something nice was great, although i'm curious as to how they're going to get buried, i think we were talking about generating massive ammounts of compost, by taking food waste of sorts from grasses and the like.
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on August 08, 2021, 12:53:53 am
wow i look good from behind. lol but yeah seeing all that mess turned into something nice was great, although i'm curious as to how they're going to get buried, i think we were talking about generating massive ammounts of compost, by taking food waste of sorts from grasses and the like.

I'm going to dig the soil from up hill of the hugels and cover them. Thereby creating an even deeper basin to collect water, and not costing me anything.

A big goal for me is to use as many on-site resources as possible to keep costs down. The cheaper it is for us to figure out how to do these things, the more people will be able to replicate our work.
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on August 09, 2021, 12:24:02 pm
Yesterday I went for a hike with this girl I have a crush on.

There hasn't been much rain this summer but fortunately the waterfall is still flowing!

(https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/v1/download/wetfish.chat/aNiEiwQiBlnEHIVYtCbfCSoo)

We walked down into the valley, up to the waterfall, and down to the middle falls where we turned around. The whole hike through the valley we were picking wild berries and mint. We sat on the pot rock ate a sandwich & some granola bars.

Also we found a couple piles of bear poop in the trail!

(https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/v1/download/wetfish.chat/cvRjcUVmDrZueyAumxNqGizr) (https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/v1/download/wetfish.chat/BwPLoOVXHvoYldKbEwTLpOGY)
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on August 23, 2021, 09:22:47 am
Went for a hike with Woodcat and her roommates over the weekend. We hiked around and hung out by the waterfall for a couple hours, then at sunset we hiked back up to the top of the mountain and watched Jupiter and the moon rise over the horizon. It was totally not planned at all, just a fun serendipitous adventure.

(https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/v1/download/wetfish.chat/ZvLCPByyMkRIyLJOGPWVIklV)

(https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/v1/download/wetfish.chat/hDtljxgbEsOAhGyaTAZVDuDs)

(https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/v1/download/wetfish.chat/BJWhaFIeMXMNyqbuwEUiCuRv)

(https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/v1/download/wetfish.chat/fTxJtdOumAtAWHvOOuGlptCP)

(https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/v1/download/wetfish.chat/twaxpiSSaHgmRxFSxzZbbcqE)

(https://matrix.wetfish.chat/_matrix/media/v1/download/wetfish.chat/zWREFQejagqTUqbHHdYecWbW)