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Title: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on July 24, 2020, 10:03:25 PM
It's like a LAN party, with more ddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd

That's right. Wetfish is buying land in the mountains to build an underground house, greenhouses, and do some agroforestry. The mission is to create an open source, self-sufficient society.

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/07c41fe9-dbc1-b29e-e483-fb83c0321e66.jpg) (https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/800_9d0f3e63-7bc0-fc84-b5f3-41ccd9089a63.jpg)

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/4c77eb53-2e7e-98ba-6b05-dfa09478d034.jpg)

Saxton and I have been saving money together to buy land since we got married. Over the past few months we started looking at some properties in the mountains about 15 minutes from where we live now. We can go outside and see the mountains where these properties are, it's pretty dope. We have enough saved up for an 8 acre property but about a month ago a 45 acre property in the same neighborhood was listed for sale.

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/110c2c36-fc40-0b02-2f2c-abf6cd9b29cc.jpg) (https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/ab29139a-8a8a-c9db-0b33-d168be425e57.jpg)

I've already gotten quotes from local well drilling and septic companies and talked to the county about the zoning and building requirements. It's all open zoning which means we can basically do whatever we want so long as a licensed contractor signs off on the building permits.

It has a stream, trees, and line of sight to basically the whole town. Wetfish could maintain the infrastructure for a local meshnet.

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/eed56c73-0972-b36b-2376-a68f9b5fee85.jpg)

Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: Qwan on July 24, 2020, 10:06:36 PM
Woah thats a ton of land, super pretty
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: tae on July 24, 2020, 10:15:18 PM
Woah thats a ton of land, super pretty

agreed! beautiful
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: meleeman on July 24, 2020, 10:16:42 PM
damn rachel, i didn't know you were going to start a hippie commune there, i mean now i kinda regret buying land in new mexico but hey, if you need help building or what not, i'm definetely down to help, just gimme weed and pizza and i'll be good. XD
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on July 24, 2020, 10:41:01 PM
If you know me you'll know I hate asking for money and I hate ads. But here we go... (https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/fishbux/bux1.gif)

Saxton and I have spent the past 3 months fixing up our current house: restaining the deck, fixing a hole in the garage, fixing our plumbing. We got our house appraised and  refinanced our mortgage in order to get additional cash to buy the land.

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Right now we have 70% of the cash on hand, but not enough to make an offer.

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/2fdc48ec-2a0d-9ebb-2fe7-263f77099201.gif)

Since we have more than 50% down, we could potentially get a land loan. But the interest rates on land loans are never very good compared to a mortgage. Lenders hate undeveloped land. Even if we could find a lender with decent rates, the whole process of getting the loan is going to take a couple more months.

That's why we're coming to Wetfish to ask if anyone in the community shares our vision of building an awesome hacker society of underground mole people.

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/300c9fc5-1917-279e-9362-df7afe3a5729.jpg)

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We are looking for investors to help us secure this property. By becoming an investor now you will have guaranteed access to Wetfish infrastructure for life. After the greenhouses are operational, food rations will be available for yourself and your immediate family for life as well.

Anyone who is willing to help put some money down on the land is encouraged to contact rachel on IRC.
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on July 24, 2020, 11:30:06 PM
FAQs from investors:

Q: How much are you looking for?
A: If we can get a few people to pitch in $5,000 each we'd have enough to make an offer. If a few people pitch in $10,000 we'd have enough to buy it outright for the list price


Q: What's the timeframe?
A: We'd like to make an offer before the end of August


Q: Can I go sledding / snowboarding down the mountain in winter?
A: Yes
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: Diabolizer on July 25, 2020, 01:02:00 AM
I really wish I could give you that money.  I've been writing wiki articles cause I know that gets you (teansy amounts) of cash.  Right now all I have is coral :(
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: woodneko on July 25, 2020, 09:34:23 PM
I would also love to give if I had the moneys, ask me again in 5 years, lol. Between cooleg and everything else going on I don't have a lot to spare.
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on July 25, 2020, 09:46:51 PM
I would also love to give if I had the moneys, ask me again in 5 years, lol. Between cooleg and everything else going on I don't have a lot to spare.

No worries! This investment opportunity is mostly aimed at members of the community who already have successful careers in the tech industry. If you're struggling to make ends meet the last thing I'd want is for you to send me money. You should be paying for rent and groceries and shit

Hopefully in 5 years you'll be asking for money to help buy your own land to build self sufficient greenhouses and mushroom farms instead :)
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: kayimbo on July 26, 2020, 11:48:19 AM
what is wetfish infrastructure
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: woodneko on July 26, 2020, 12:39:47 PM
Hopefully in 5 years you'll be asking for money to help buy your own land to build self sufficient greenhouses and mushroom farms instead :)

That would be pretty spicy. I see it happening for sure, assuming I don't die in a car accident before then.
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: here cums the fuck truck on July 26, 2020, 12:48:58 PM
what is wetfish infrastructure

im curious as well
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on July 26, 2020, 01:52:38 PM
what is wetfish infrastructure

im curious as well

The underground bunker and greenhouses
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: Black T Cat on July 26, 2020, 06:24:58 PM
sell regenerative or permaculture ag consulting services to raise funds. most profitable scam in ag since anhydrous was introduced as a fertilizer
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on July 27, 2020, 11:01:29 PM
check out these cool pics of the land

we went there over the weekend

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/a8a43670-2b01-791e-300e-7d964c3789dd.jpg)

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/b0974748-2bba-85e1-a9de-981ab9c026cf.jpg)
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on July 27, 2020, 11:06:40 PM
These ones are sideways... SORRY

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(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/7f679741-0cca-dcf3-9407-c0785e1665e6.jpg)

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/155f86fa-2c57-6a77-8cb0-256a7dac3f1b.jpg)
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on July 30, 2020, 09:40:57 PM
By the way this is what "open" zoning means according to Larimer county

https://library.municode.com/co/larimer_county/codes/code_of_ordinances?nodeId=PTIILAUSCO_4.0ZO_4.1ZODI_4.1.5EN

Quote
4.1.5. - O-Open. A. Principal uses:
Agricultural
1. Agricultural labor housing (S)
2. Alfalfa dehydrator (S)
3. Apiary (R)
4. Commercial poultry farm (S)
5. Equestrian operation (PSP/MS/
S)—See section 4.3.1
6. Farm (R)
7. Feedyard (S)
8. Fur farm (S)
9. Garden supply center (S)
10. Greenhouse (R)
11. Livestock auction (S)
12. Livestock veterinary clinic/hospital (MS/
S)—See section 4.3.1
13. Packing facility (R)
14. Pet animal facility (MS/
S)—See section 4.3.1
15. Pet animal veterinary clinic/hospital (MS/
S)—See section 4.3.1
16. Sod farm, nursery (R)
17. Tree farm (R)
Residential
18. Dwelling, cabin (R)—See subsection 4.3.2
19. Group home (R)
20. Group home for the aged (R)
21. Group home for the developmentally disabled (R)
22. Group home for the mentally ill (R)
23. Single-family dwelling (R)
24. Storage buildings and garages (R)—See section 4.3.2
Institutional
25. Cemetery (S)
26. Child/elderly care center (S)
27. Church (MS/
S)—See section 4.3.4
28. Community hall (MS/
S)—See section 4.3.4
29. Hospital (S)
30. Prison/detention center (S)
31. School, nonpublic (S)
32. State-licensed group home (S)
Recreational
33. Country club (S)
34. Golf course (S)
35. Membership club (S)
36. Rafting business (MS)
37. Shooting range (S)
Accommodation
38. Bed and breakfast (MS/
S)—See section 4.3.6
39. Recreational vehicle park and campground (S)
40. Resort lodge/resort cabins (S)
41. Retreat (S)
42. Seasonal camp (S)
43. Short term rental (S)
Industrial
44. Landfill (S)
45. Mining (S)
46. Oil and gas drilling and production (R)
47. Sawmill (S)
48. Small solar facility (R/PSP)
49. Small wind energy facility (MS)
Utilities
50. Commercial mobile radio service (SP/
S)—See section 16
51. Radio and television transmitters (S)
Transportation
52. Airport (S)
53. Heliport (S)
54. Park and ride (S)
55. Train station (S)
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: Ozmiander on July 31, 2020, 12:40:23 PM
i'm reserving a corner to start my prison/fur farm.
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: kiiada on August 06, 2020, 10:55:16 PM
Quote
Residential
18. Dwelling, cabin (R)—See subsection 4.3.2
19. Group home (R)
20. Group home for the aged (R)
21. Group home for the developmentally disabled (R)
22. Group home for the mentally ill (R)
23. Single-family dwelling (R)
24. Storage buildings and garages (R)—See section 4.3.2


Seems like it's missing multi-family options? Might have to technically register everyone as farm employees and call it agricultural labor housing
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: woodneko on August 06, 2020, 10:59:25 PM
Seems like it's missing multi-family options? Might have to technically register everyone as farm employees and call it agricultural labor housing

one of these?

Quote
40. Resort lodge/resort cabins (S)
41. Retreat (S)
42. Seasonal camp (S)
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: kiiada on August 06, 2020, 11:10:38 PM
That's a pretty grey area?  Seems like shit would get fucky with legal residency but idk if that matters I'm not a lawyer
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: firefly on August 10, 2020, 02:12:32 PM
"cemetery"

Wetfish Memorial Mountain Park has a nice ring to it.
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: Mozai on September 23, 2020, 05:46:11 AM
Would wetfish house be a feature in "Fallout: Denver" ?
(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/70a4a232-81be-7fb2-c802-dcc014e892ae.png)
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on September 24, 2020, 10:39:40 AM
Would wetfish house be a feature in "Fallout: Denver" ?
(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/70a4a232-81be-7fb2-c802-dcc014e892ae.png)

Yeah up by the desolation array, lol
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: Anomaly on September 24, 2020, 11:07:57 AM
Great, now I want to play Fallout: New Denver.
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on October 01, 2020, 11:10:25 AM
Update: Everyone on Wetfish is broke as fuck so I ended up just getting the land loan. Our realtor sent over an offer this morning
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on October 02, 2020, 10:29:57 PM
Update #2: They accepted our offer and the land is now under contract
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: here cums the fuck truck on October 03, 2020, 01:54:13 AM
congrats!
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on October 22, 2020, 12:59:28 PM
Meanwhile in New York

(https://wiki.wetfish.net/upload/4cb4f81f-2f12-832b-337d-699f9bfeef38.jpg)
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: firefly on October 25, 2020, 10:50:35 AM
Congrats on making the land purchase! That's so awesome!

I forgot basic details: approximately where is it in relation to Ft. Collins, 15 min in which direction? what is the cost per acre up there?
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on November 13, 2020, 02:50:14 PM
Congrats on making the land purchase! That's so awesome!

I forgot basic details: approximately where is it in relation to Ft. Collins, 15 min in which direction? what is the cost per acre up there?

Ft Collins is east of the rocky mountains, and this property is in the mountains... so it's west :P

The cost per acre is around $3,000 if you are buying 30+ acres, otherwise it's more like $10,000 per acre for smaller lots
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: here cums the fuck truck on November 14, 2020, 05:06:37 AM
i'm thinking of buying a house out here in PA, i've just discovered sherrif sales (buying a house for the price of the tax lien). thing is, the tax rate here is astronomical - 12.5%! every year! but people end run this by getting their houses assessed for much less than they're actually worth, a house goes for 150k and its assessed at 40k, etc.

house down the street from me is in shabby condition, last went for 20k but was assessed at 44k. i was thinking of buying it and fixing it up but i don't know how to bribe locals for a new assessment.
Title: Re: Wetfish LAND Party
Post by: rachel on November 20, 2020, 04:57:10 PM
Hello All,

We did finish the survey today. We set or found all boundary corners and located improvements. I will issue a survey Monday morning. I will respond to everyone on this email with a PDF version (signed and stamped) of my survey. Have a great weekend. Thanks for choosing [surveying company].

Take care
[Survey dude]