Dear Rachel

I finally was able to understand how all the certs work after many hard hours of bonking.
Even though it took me a long time, it would have taken me even longer without your help.

Now I feel truly like a unique flower.
A more secured, unique flower.

Thanks for helping me with SSL.
You will forever be in my heart as the one who helped me with SSL.

Your friend and comrade,
~ pstraw

Sweet!! Glad to hear you got it working. Randomly today dbladez was having similar issues with letsencrypt and had the idea of using a cron to copy the cert files into a different folder and changing the owner to be the whatever user that needs access to the cert file.

Wurd.

I found some utils (that i'm not yet smart enough to use) that were specifically made for non-root letsencrypt certs:

https://github.com/diafygi/acme-tiny
https://github.com/lukas2511/dehydrated
https://blogs.s-osg.org/running-letsencrypt-as-an-unprivileged-user/
https://www.metachris.com/2015/12/comparison-of-10-acme-lets-encrypt-clients/

But just ended up going with certbot to do it [:
And doing the permissions magic u said with 755/700 non-mumble and 750 mumble for the mumble cert

Now that I actually typed I realize what u said...rofl. Yeah that would be an awesome script.
DBLADEZ if u make it let me know =]]