Guns

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Re: Guns
« Reply #45 on: October 09, 2017, 08:13:07 pm »
Your first video is of a 300 blackout.  It was designed not by a company really, it was more of a crowd thing.  You put a 30 cal round inside a necked out 5.56mm casing.  It's designed specifically to be SUPER quiet.  But to do that it is a sub sonic round, so it has poor range, and frankly VERY poor terminal damage.   Also microphones and modern recording software equalize sounds so it normalizes sound levels; trust me, that gun setup is louder than it sounds in the video.  I've shot almost the EXACT same setup.  Frankly it still hurt my ears and I wore ear plugs.  But it was perhaps the quietest gun I have shot (besides a suppressed .22cal but that's irrelevant.)

Speak of, in your other video they are shooting .22!  That is a USELESS round against people unless you're literally holding it to their head and even then it may not work.  It's quiet enough without a suppressor that some people shoot it without ear plugs (I can't it still hurts my ears).

You can't trust microphones to accurately give you loudness unless they are specially calibrated and made mics to do so (often used for big expensive symphonies) to do so, and you need several.

That 300 blkout is louder than that video shows.

And besides, all the "mass shootings" are done with rounds designed to kill people, like 5.56mm (or .223cal) or 5.54mm or 7.62 variants.  Even suppressed those are all LOUD especially since all those rounds are supersonic so they make a huge noise even after the shot as they create a small sonic boom as they move.

Just recently a company finally made the first commercial shotgun suppressor.  It works well actually, but the shotgun is still way loud.

Point is, unless you are shooting .22cal or something like that, low velocity and energy rounds you are going to have a LOT of noise.  Go to a range and listen sometime if you don't believe me.  I have a lot of experience with this topic.

It's all about energy.  For a bullet you either get that from speed, or mass or both.  You need enough mass at enough speed to actually make significant terminal damage.  Neither 300 blkout or .22cal rounds can do that, the .22 has very low mass and he is shooting subsonic loads, so it's slow as well (regular .22cal (of different variants) are usually supersonic).  300 blkout has mass, but terribly poor velocity.  It also doesn't like to act properly when hitting a target; the most lethal rounds either tumble around in the body (such as 5.56mm IF shot from a 16"-22" barrel AND within 300yards of the target), or they create hydrostatic shock from all the energy they dump (you have to be over a certain velocity and energy to do this, the exact number is in dispute); (Usually larger FAST moving rounds do this, such as 300 winmag), OR lastly the round needs to expand and get so big it makes such a large hole that it's lethal (this is what the .45cal was designed for; also a 10mm hollow point, or even better a .50AE round for this; also some .30cal rifle rounds CAN do this, but many don't, they have so much energy they enter and leave the target, which for creating damage is bad, you want the bullet to impart ALL of it's energy in the target, not go through it, that's wasted energy.  This is why the 5.56mm(.223cal) is SO effective IF shot out of a long enough barrel and at close enough range, if you do that the bullet literally tumbles like a wobbling top inside the target and is VERY lethal.  Shoot it out of a 11" barrel or have a target too far away?  It's useless, it punches a tiny hole in and out of the person which is rarely lethal or even that damaging.  My father can tell you all about that.)

Enough, you get the idea.

ah so those videos i posted were 140db and that dude just doesn't give a shit/is talking at 140db
-Kidoppay

Re: Guns
« Reply #46 on: October 09, 2017, 09:10:47 pm »
for some reason my reply didn't show up, so if this is a double post whoops.   I don't give a fuck about suppressors, just point out in reference to clinton's tweet, absolute lowest  db for the las vegas thing would be 71db at that range, maybe more like 75-80db.   also i'm laughing at the idea of non-dangerous bullets.

Re: Guns
« Reply #47 on: October 09, 2017, 09:20:48 pm »
Didn't double post.  I didn't say they weren't dangerous, I said they aren't typically lethal.

Also he was using an AR-15 mostly, so that's either .223cal or 5.56mm.  Trust me, even with a suppressor that would be much louder than 130dB.  Most suppressors for the AR-15 bring it down to the 139dB range for a VERY good one.

My point is that the tweet is retarded; they would still EASILY hear the gun fire and know what it was.

for some reason my reply didn't show up, so if this is a double post whoops.   I don't give a fuck about suppressors, just point out in reference to clinton's tweet, absolute lowest  db for the las vegas thing would be 71db at that range, maybe more like 75-80db.   also i'm laughing at the idea of non-dangerous bullets.
-Kidoppay

Re: Guns
« Reply #48 on: October 10, 2017, 02:38:03 am »
Fun fact: You can make any gun automatic by being fat!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKI9S5qT5IA

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Re: Guns
« Reply #49 on: October 12, 2017, 03:09:35 pm »
yeah second on kiddopay's post; generally at the range you wear earplugs AND earmuffs, with a sillencer you can skip a set. hardened guys who have been shootinng all their lives dgaf.

a big thing is with subsonic ammo and a phat supressor you avoid the supersonic CRACK and shots aren't heard from as far away but  MOST IMPORTANTLY they're not identified as shots! they're most useful to cops, in a situation where 911 calls reporting shots can help cops pinpoint the location of someone on a murder spree. which is still a problem, clearly.

anyway i'm honestly torn on gun control. i think it should be at least as hard to buy a car as a gun; and you should need a license to operate it.

also about once a year a child is given a machine gun to blap at the range and they accidentally mow down an adult. so. yeah.
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i really like how weird olympic guns look
« Reply #50 on: December 14, 2017, 06:14:10 pm »

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Re: Guns
« Reply #52 on: December 16, 2017, 09:40:58 am »
This guy shoots a .50 cal at a deer, misses, and it still dies instantaneously from the shockwave.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/6P3uwl5HzzQ

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Re: Guns
« Reply #53 on: December 17, 2017, 03:53:01 pm »
guy said it sucked the eyes outta the deer's head. insane. anyway rachel the weird ass gun i just linked is an OLYMPIC TARGET PISTOL, they're usually a very small, light round with almost no recoil. when they're bought the grip is just a giant block of wood, it's then carved to fit the shooter's grip perfectly. the reason the gun is giant and bulky is because tons of weights have been added and sometimes calibrated precisely.

RACHEL TIPPED 69 CORAL FOR THIS POST

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Re: Guns
« Reply #54 on: December 22, 2017, 02:05:17 am »
guy said it sucked the eyes outta the deer's head. insane. anyway rachel the weird ass gun i just linked is an OLYMPIC TARGET PISTOL, they're usually a very small, light round with almost no recoil. when they're bought the grip is just a giant block of wood, it's then carved to fit the shooter's grip perfectly. the reason the gun is giant and bulky is because tons of weights have been added and sometimes calibrated precisely.

high quality posting in shitpost central
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« Reply #55 on: December 29, 2017, 11:38:40 pm »
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« Reply #56 on: January 29, 2018, 06:02:41 am »
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« Reply #57 on: January 29, 2018, 01:03:30 pm »

waow what a cutie <3

she can hammer my froward bolt assist anyday <3
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Re: Guns
« Reply #58 on: January 31, 2018, 09:56:46 pm »



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Re: Guns
« Reply #59 on: February 06, 2018, 10:28:51 pm »
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